Reference:1509 - Revision history

Admin: Clarify specimen evidence and trim repeated caveats

2026-10-28T04:22:31Z

Clarify specimen evidence and trim repeated caveats

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	The 1965 ~~sale~~ listing for inventory 2406 shows “1509” stamped between the lugs ~~of a gold Date~~. Rolex Certified Pre-Owned separately lists a 34 mm, 18 ct yellow-gold 1509/8 dated 1972.		The 1965 listing for inventory 2406 shows a gold Date with “1509” stamped between the lugs. Rolex Certified Pre-Owned separately lists a 34 mm, 18 ct yellow-gold 1509/8 dated 1972.

	==Core facts==		==Core facts==
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	==Production outline==		==Production outline==

	~~The 1965 example has 1509 stamped between the lugs; its~~ serial is masked as 1.3XX.XXX. The 1972 CPO listing is for a separate 1509/8 and ~~shows~~ no reference stamp. ~~Neither listing sets~~ the production ~~endpoints~~.		Inventory 2406’s serial is masked as 1.3XX.XXX. The 1972 CPO listing is for a separate 1509/8, and its photos show no reference stamp. The two dates do not establish the production span.

	==Movement notes==		==Movement notes==

	Watch-Wiki, Time Connection, and Star Time list Cal. 1565 and 1575 for ~~ref~~. 1509 or 1509/8. Rolex parts sheets ~~for those calibers~~ list Date components under refs. 1500, 1501, and 1503. No ~~published~~ movement ~~photo ties~~ either caliber ~~to a 1509~~. See [[Reference:Movements\|the movement guide]].		Watch-Wiki, Time Connection, and Star Time list Cal. 1565 and 1575 for refs. 1509 and 1509/8. Rolex parts sheets list Date components under refs. 1500, 1501, and 1503. No photographed 1509 movement confirms either caliber. See [[Reference:Movements\|the movement guide]].

	==Dial map==		==Dial map==
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	==Case, bezel, crystal, and crown notes==		==Case, bezel, crystal, and crown notes==

	CD Peacock describes the 1509/8 bezel as engine-turned. A Rolex Forums chart ~~and~~ Luxury Bazaar~~'s bezel guide call~~ the ~~pattern Greek Key; its credited~~ photo appears to show ~~the same~~ inventory 2406 ~~watch~~, based on its dial, hands, date, and bracelet. A 2014 Rolex Forums ~~thread questions that name~~. The 1965 ~~watch has~~ closely spaced grooves.		CD Peacock describes the 1509/8 bezel as engine-turned. A 2022 Rolex Forums chart calls the pattern “Greek Key”; Luxury Bazaar uses the same label with a photo that appears to show inventory 2406, based on its dial, hands, date, and bracelet. In a 2014 discussion, a Rolex Forums member describes the 1509 texture as between engine-turned and fluted. The 1965 photographs show closely spaced grooves.

	~~Westphal's~~ 2017 table ~~lists acrylic Cyclop 117 for~~ refs. 1509 and 1509/8. Time Connection and Star Time ~~give~~ crystal 25-117 for the 1509/8. CD Peacock ~~lists~~ sapphire on its 1972 ~~watch but~~ does not say whether ~~the crystal~~ was replaced~~. Time Connection and Star Time also list crown 24-530-8 and tube 24-5320 for the 1509/8~~.		Westphal’s 2017 table groups refs. 1509 and 1509/8 with acrylic Cyclop 117. Time Connection and Star Time list crystal 25-117, crown 24-530-8, and tube 24-5320 for the 1509/8. CD Peacock describes sapphire on its 1972 example; the listing does not say whether it was replaced.

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	==Bracelets, end links, clasps, and packaging notes==		==Bracelets, end links, clasps, and packaging notes==

	The 1965 listing ~~describes~~ a gold Rolex band. In 2013~~, a~~ Rolex Forums seller ~~described~~ a ~~band~~ stamped “from 65” and repaired near the clasp~~. The~~ serial prefix ~~and description match~~ inventory 2406, so ~~the forum sale likely concerns~~ the same watch. The ~~seller's~~ “from 65” claim applies to the bracelet~~; it says nothing about~~ the watch head. CD Peacock also lists an 18 ct gold bracelet on its 1509/8. Neither ~~listing identifies the~~ bracelet reference or end links, or establishes original delivery.		The 1965 listing shows a gold Rolex band. A 2013 Rolex Forums seller describes a bracelet stamped “from 65” and repaired near the clasp; its serial prefix matches inventory 2406, so it may be the same watch. The seller’s “from 65” claim applies to the bracelet, not the watch head. CD Peacock also lists an 18 ct gold bracelet on its 1972 1509/8. Neither record gives a bracelet reference or end links, or establishes original delivery.

	[[File:Ref 1509 bracelet.webp\|thumb\|right\|250px\|alt=Patterned gold bracelet fitted to the 1965 1509 example\|Inventory 2406: bracelet]]		[[File:Ref 1509 bracelet.webp\|thumb\|right\|250px\|alt=Patterned gold bracelet fitted to the 1965 1509 example\|Inventory 2406: bracelet]]

Admin: Tighten 1509 prose; remove templated wording

2026-10-28T01:03:43Z

Tighten 1509 prose; remove templated wording

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	[[File:Ref 1509 hero.webp\|thumb\|center\|640px\|alt=Yellow-gold Rolex Oyster Perpetual Date ref. 1509 with patterned bezel and bracelet\|~~HQ Milton inventory~~ 2406, listed as a 1965 example.]]		[[File:Ref 1509 hero.webp\|thumb\|center\|640px\|alt=Yellow-gold Rolex Oyster Perpetual Date ref. 1509 with patterned bezel and bracelet\|Inventory 2406, listed as a 1965 example.]]
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	~~HQ Milton lists a~~ 1965 ~~gold Date, with 1509~~ stamped between the lugs. Rolex Certified Pre-Owned lists a 34 mm, 18 ct yellow-gold 1509/8 ~~from~~ 1972.		The 1965 sale listing for inventory 2406 shows “1509” stamped between the lugs of a gold Date. Rolex Certified Pre-Owned separately lists a 34 mm, 18 ct yellow-gold 1509/8 dated 1972.

	==Core facts==		==Core facts==
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	\| production		\| production
	\| dated ~~examples documented in 1965 and~~ 1972		\| one listing dates an example to 1965; a separate 1509/8 listing is dated 1972
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	\| case		\| case
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	\| bracelet		\| bracelet
	\| gold Rolex bracelets ~~are listed with both examples; original delivery is unverified~~		\| both listings describe gold Rolex bracelets
	\|}		\|}

	~~==Where it sits in the line==~~

	~~Ref. 1509 belongs to the four-digit Oyster Perpetual Date line.~~

	==Production outline==		==Production outline==

	The ~~two listings date examples to~~ 1965 ~~and 1972. HQ Milton's 1965 photographs show the~~ 1509 ~~stamp~~ between the lugs; ~~the~~ serial is masked as 1.3XX.XXX. ~~Rolex~~ CPO ~~dates its~~ 1509/8 ~~listing to 1972, but its photographs do not show the~~ reference stamp. ~~The reference's~~ production endpoints ~~are unknown~~.		The 1965 example has 1509 stamped between the lugs; its serial is masked as 1.3XX.XXX. The 1972 CPO listing is for a separate 1509/8 and shows no reference stamp. Neither listing sets the production endpoints.

	==Movement notes==		==Movement notes==

	~~Secondary reference tables~~ list Cal. 1565 and 1575 for ref. 1509. Rolex parts sheets for those calibers list Date components under refs. 1500, 1501 and 1503. ~~Neither dated 1509 has a~~ published movement ~~photograph~~. See [[Reference:Movements\|the movement guide]].		Watch-Wiki, Time Connection, and Star Time list Cal. 1565 and 1575 for ref. 1509 or 1509/8. Rolex parts sheets for those calibers list Date components under refs. 1500, 1501, and 1503. No published movement photo ties either caliber to a 1509. See [[Reference:Movements\|the movement guide]].

	==Dial map==		==Dial map==

	~~HQ Milton's~~ photographs show a gold dial with applied baton markers ~~on the 1965 example~~. CD Peacock describes its 1972 dial as champagne.		The 1965 photographs show a gold dial with applied baton markers. CD Peacock describes its 1972 dial as champagne.

	[[File:Ref 1509 dial detail.webp\|thumb\|right\|250px\|alt=Gold dial with baton markers and patterned bezel on ref. 1509\|~~HQ Milton inventory~~ 2406: dial and bezel]]		[[File:Ref 1509 dial detail.webp\|thumb\|right\|250px\|alt=Gold dial with baton markers and patterned bezel on ref. 1509\|Inventory 2406: dial and bezel]]

	==Case, bezel, crystal, and crown notes==		==Case, bezel, crystal, and crown notes==

	CD Peacock describes the 1509/8 bezel as engine-turned. A Rolex Forums chart and Luxury Bazaar's bezel guide call the pattern Greek Key; ~~Luxury Bazaar credits~~ its photo to ~~HQ Milton, and~~ the ~~watch appears to match~~ inventory 2406. A 2014 Rolex Forums thread questions ~~the~~ name. The ~~photographs show~~ closely spaced grooves.		CD Peacock describes the 1509/8 bezel as engine-turned. A Rolex Forums chart and Luxury Bazaar's bezel guide call the pattern Greek Key; its credited photo appears to show the same inventory 2406 watch, based on its dial, hands, date, and bracelet. A 2014 Rolex Forums thread questions that name. The 1965 watch has closely spaced grooves.

	Westphal's 2017 table lists acrylic Cyclop 117 for refs. 1509 and 1509/8. Time Connection and Star Time give crystal 25-117 for the 1509/8. CD Peacock lists sapphire on its 1972 watch; the ~~sources conflict, and the listing gives no service history~~. Time Connection and Star Time also ~~give~~ crown 24-530-8 and tube 24-5320 for the 1509/8~~. These are parts cross-references~~.		Westphal's 2017 table lists acrylic Cyclop 117 for refs. 1509 and 1509/8. Time Connection and Star Time give crystal 25-117 for the 1509/8. CD Peacock lists sapphire on its 1972 watch but does not say whether the crystal was replaced. Time Connection and Star Time also list crown 24-530-8 and tube 24-5320 for the 1509/8.

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	File:Ref 1509 case angle.webp\|alt=Angled view of the gold 1509 case and patterned bezel\|~~HQ Milton inventory~~ 2406: case and bezel		File:Ref 1509 case angle.webp\|alt=Angled view of the gold 1509 case and patterned bezel\|Inventory 2406: case and bezel
	File:Ref 1509 reference stamp.webp\|alt=The number 1509 stamped between the lugs\|~~HQ Milton inventory~~ 2406: reference stamp		File:Ref 1509 reference stamp.webp\|alt=The number 1509 stamped between the lugs\|Inventory 2406: reference stamp
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	==Bracelets, end links, clasps, and packaging notes==		==Bracelets, end links, clasps, and packaging notes==

	~~HQ Milton~~ describes a gold Rolex band ~~on the 1965 watch~~. A 2013 Rolex Forums seller described ~~the~~ band as stamped “from 65” and repaired near the clasp. ~~Its~~ serial prefix and description match ~~the later HQ Milton listing~~, ~~suggesting~~ the ~~posts concern~~ the same watch. The seller's ~~date~~ claim applies to the bracelet~~, not~~ the watch head. CD Peacock also lists an 18 ct gold bracelet on its 1509/8. ~~The listings give no~~ bracelet reference or end~~-link number and do not establish~~ original delivery.		The 1965 listing describes a gold Rolex band. In 2013, a Rolex Forums seller described a band stamped “from 65” and repaired near the clasp. The serial prefix and description match inventory 2406, so the forum sale likely concerns the same watch. The seller's “from 65” claim applies to the bracelet; it says nothing about the watch head. CD Peacock also lists an 18 ct gold bracelet on its 1509/8. Neither listing identifies the bracelet reference or end links, or establishes original delivery.

	[[File:Ref 1509 bracelet.webp\|thumb\|right\|250px\|alt=Patterned gold bracelet fitted to the 1965 1509 example\|~~HQ Milton inventory~~ 2406: bracelet]]		[[File:Ref 1509 bracelet.webp\|thumb\|right\|250px\|alt=Patterned gold bracelet fitted to the 1965 1509 example\|Inventory 2406: bracelet]]

	==Related references==		==Related references==
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	File:Ref 1509 hero.webp\|alt=Full view of the 1965 gold Rolex 1509 and bracelet\|~~HQ Milton inventory~~ 2406		File:Ref 1509 hero.webp\|alt=Full view of the 1965 gold Rolex 1509 and bracelet\|Inventory 2406
	File:Ref 1509 dial detail.webp\|alt=Gold dial with baton markers and patterned bezel\|Dial and bezel		File:Ref 1509 dial detail.webp\|alt=Gold dial with baton markers and patterned bezel\|Dial and bezel
	File:Ref 1509 case angle.webp\|alt=Angled view of the gold case and bezel\|Case and bezel		File:Ref 1509 case angle.webp\|alt=Angled view of the gold case and bezel\|Case and bezel

Admin: Add sourced Oyster Perpetual Date reference 1509 article

2026-10-28T00:59:15Z

Add sourced Oyster Perpetual Date reference 1509 article

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[[File:Ref 1509 hero.webp|thumb|center|640px|alt=Yellow-gold Rolex Oyster Perpetual Date ref. 1509 with patterned bezel and bracelet|HQ Milton inventory 2406, listed as a 1965 example.]]
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HQ Milton lists a 1965 gold Date, with 1509 stamped between the lugs. Rolex Certified Pre-Owned lists a 34 mm, 18 ct yellow-gold 1509/8 from 1972.

==Core facts==

{| class="wikitable rp-facts"
|-
! detail
! documented record
|-
| reference
| 1509; a separate CPO listing uses 1509/8
|-
| family
| four-digit Oyster Perpetual Date
|-
| production
| dated examples documented in 1965 and 1972
|-
| case
| 34 mm; 18 ct yellow gold in both cited listings
|-
| bezel
| CPO describes the 1509/8 bezel as engine-turned
|-
| movement
| Secondary tables list Cal. 1565 and 1575 for the 1509
|-
| dial
| gold in the 1965 dealer listing; champagne in the 1972 CPO listing
|-
| crystal
| Westphal and parts tables list acrylic Cyclop 117; CPO lists sapphire for its 1972 example
|-
| bracelet
| gold Rolex bracelets are listed with both examples; original delivery is unverified
|}

==Where it sits in the line==

Ref. 1509 belongs to the four-digit Oyster Perpetual Date line.

==Production outline==

The two listings date examples to 1965 and 1972. HQ Milton's 1965 photographs show the 1509 stamp between the lugs; the serial is masked as 1.3XX.XXX. Rolex CPO dates its 1509/8 listing to 1972, but its photographs do not show the reference stamp. The reference's production endpoints are unknown.

==Movement notes==

Secondary reference tables list Cal. 1565 and 1575 for ref. 1509. Rolex parts sheets for those calibers list Date components under refs. 1500, 1501 and 1503. Neither dated 1509 has a published movement photograph. See [[Reference:Movements|the movement guide]].

==Dial map==

HQ Milton's photographs show a gold dial with applied baton markers on the 1965 example. CD Peacock describes its 1972 dial as champagne.

[[File:Ref 1509 dial detail.webp|thumb|right|250px|alt=Gold dial with baton markers and patterned bezel on ref. 1509|HQ Milton inventory 2406: dial and bezel]]

==Case, bezel, crystal, and crown notes==

CD Peacock describes the 1509/8 bezel as engine-turned. A Rolex Forums chart and Luxury Bazaar's bezel guide call the pattern Greek Key; Luxury Bazaar credits its photo to HQ Milton, and the watch appears to match inventory 2406. A 2014 Rolex Forums thread questions the name. The photographs show closely spaced grooves.

Westphal's 2017 table lists acrylic Cyclop 117 for refs. 1509 and 1509/8. Time Connection and Star Time give crystal 25-117 for the 1509/8. CD Peacock lists sapphire on its 1972 watch; the sources conflict, and the listing gives no service history. Time Connection and Star Time also give crown 24-530-8 and tube 24-5320 for the 1509/8. These are parts cross-references.

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File:Ref 1509 case angle.webp|alt=Angled view of the gold 1509 case and patterned bezel|HQ Milton inventory 2406: case and bezel
File:Ref 1509 reference stamp.webp|alt=The number 1509 stamped between the lugs|HQ Milton inventory 2406: reference stamp
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==Bracelets, end links, clasps, and packaging notes==

HQ Milton describes a gold Rolex band on the 1965 watch. A 2013 Rolex Forums seller described the band as stamped “from 65” and repaired near the clasp. Its serial prefix and description match the later HQ Milton listing, suggesting the posts concern the same watch. The seller's date claim applies to the bracelet, not the watch head. CD Peacock also lists an 18 ct gold bracelet on its 1509/8. The listings give no bracelet reference or end-link number and do not establish original delivery.

[[File:Ref 1509 bracelet.webp|thumb|right|250px|alt=Patterned gold bracelet fitted to the 1965 1509 example|HQ Milton inventory 2406: bracelet]]

==Related references==

* [[Reference:1500|Oyster Perpetual Date 1500]]
* [[Reference:1504|Oyster Perpetual Date 1504]]
* [[Reference:1506|Oyster Perpetual Date 1506]]
* [[Reference:1510|Oyster Perpetual Date 1510]]

See the [[Reference:oyster-perpetual|Oyster Perpetual index]], [[Reference:Movements|movement guide]], and [[Reference:Serial-numbers|serial-number guide]].

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File:Ref 1509 hero.webp|alt=Full view of the 1965 gold Rolex 1509 and bracelet|HQ Milton inventory 2406
File:Ref 1509 dial detail.webp|alt=Gold dial with baton markers and patterned bezel|Dial and bezel
File:Ref 1509 case angle.webp|alt=Angled view of the gold case and bezel|Case and bezel
File:Ref 1509 bracelet.webp|alt=Patterned gold bracelet|Bracelet
File:Ref 1509 reference stamp.webp|alt=1509 case reference between the lugs|Reference stamp
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== Sources ==

* [https://hqmilton.com/products/1965-rolex-18k-date-1509-with-rare-rolex-band "HQ Milton, sold listing — 1965 Rolex 18K Date 1509 with Rare Rolex Band, inventory 2406", HQ Milton]
* [https://cdpeacock.com/products/oyster-perpetual-date-592-3002709 "Rolex Certified Pre-Owned, Oyster Perpetual Date ref. 1509/8, 1972, via CD Peacock", Rolex / CD Peacock, 2026]
* [https://www.startimesupply.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Category_Code=11-Rolex&Product_Code=001509-8-REF&Screen=PROD "Star Time Supply, Rolex case no. 1509-8 parts listing", Star Time Supply]
* [https://www.watch-wiki.net/doku.php?id=Rolex_calibres Watch-Wiki contributors, "Watch-Wiki, Rolex calibres — Cal. 1565 and 1575 application lists for ref. 1509", Watch-Wiki]
* [https://www.startimesupply.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Category_Code=1G-Rolex_Crystal_Plastic-CY-mnsD&Product_Code=RP25-117C&Screen=PROD "Star Time Supply, generic acrylic replacement crystal 25-117 for Rolex case 1509-8", Star Time Supply]
* [https://watchparts24.de/mediafiles/Sonstiges/Kataloge/Westphal/Rolex_Crystals.pdf Ernst Westphal e.K., "Ernst Westphal, Rolex crystal table, page 6, 10 October 2017 — refs. 1509 and 1509/8", Ernst Westphal e.K., 2017-10-10]
* [https://www.rolexforums.com/archive/index.php/t-292907.html?pda=1 "Rolex Forums, “FS: Rolex Solid 18K Date Ref: 1509 with Rare Rolex Band,” 15 March 2013", Rolex Forums / seller Jacek, 2013]
* [https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=837346 "Rolex Forums, “All 15 bezel textures of 15xx OP Date models,” 13 January 2022", Rolex Forums participants, 2022]
* [https://www.luxurybazaar.com/grey-market/rolex-bezel/ Luxury Bazaar, "Luxury Bazaar, Rolex bezel guide — ref. 1509 Greek Key section", Luxury Bazaar]
* [https://www.timeconnectioninc.com/pages/rolex-case-reference-list-1000-thru-1873 "Time Connection II, Rolex Case Reference List, 1000 through 1873 — ref. 1509 entries", Time Connection II, Inc.]
* [https://www.rolexforums.com/archive/index.php/t-364417.html "Rolex Forums discussion of 15xx Oyster Perpetual Date bezel names, July 2014", Rolex Forums participants]
* [https://watchguy.co.uk/tmp/Rolex%201565.pdf "Calibre 1565 parts catalogue scan (hosted by WatchGuy)", Rolex]
* [https://www.clubderelojeria.com/comunicaciones/R/ROLEX/rolex1575/ROLEX%201575.pdf "Cal. 1575 parts catalogue", Rolex]

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