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	<small>[[Reference:gmt-master\|GMT-Master]] -> '''16760'''</small>		<small>[[Reference:gmt-master\|GMT-Master]] › '''16760'''</small>

	The 16760 is the first GMT-Master II, built around caliber 3085 and the independently adjustable 24-hour hand. Separating the local hour hand from the 24-hour hand turned the bezel into a third-time-zone tool instead of a second-time-zone aid, and it cost height: the 3085 is 6.3mm thick, and the case grew around it. That thickness gave the reference both of its collector names, "Fat Lady" and the politer "Sophia Loren," after the actress's curves. Most editorial coverage runs the production window from 1983 to 1988. The red-and-black Coke insert is the only factory bezel configuration.		The 16760 is the first GMT-Master II, built around caliber 3085 and the independently adjustable 24-hour hand. Separating the local hour hand from the 24-hour hand turned the bezel into a third-time-zone tool instead of a second-time-zone aid, and it cost height: the 3085 is 6.3mm thick, and the case grew around it. That thickness gave the reference both of its collector names, "Fat Lady" and the politer "Sophia Loren," after the actress's curves. Most editorial coverage runs the production window from 1983 to 1988. The red-and-black Coke insert is the only factory bezel configuration.
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	== Core facts ==		== Core facts ==

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	The ~~[[Reference:~~16760~~\|16760]]~~ is the first GMT-Master II, built around caliber 3085 and the independently adjustable 24-hour hand. Separating the local hour hand from the 24-hour hand turned the bezel into a third-time-zone tool instead of a second-time-zone aid, and it cost height: the 3085 is 6.3mm thick, and the case grew around it. That thickness gave the reference both of its collector names, "Fat Lady" and the politer "Sophia Loren," after the actress's curves. Most editorial coverage runs the production window from 1983 to 1988. The red-and-black Coke insert is the only factory bezel configuration.		The 16760 is the first GMT-Master II, built around caliber 3085 and the independently adjustable 24-hour hand. Separating the local hour hand from the 24-hour hand turned the bezel into a third-time-zone tool instead of a second-time-zone aid, and it cost height: the 3085 is 6.3mm thick, and the case grew around it. That thickness gave the reference both of its collector names, "Fat Lady" and the politer "Sophia Loren," after the actress's curves. Most editorial coverage runs the production window from 1983 to 1988. The red-and-black Coke insert is the only factory bezel configuration.

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	== Nicknames — Fat Lady and Sophia Loren ==		== Nicknames — Fat Lady and Sophia Loren ==

	Both nicknames derive from the case proportions driven by the 6.3mm caliber 3085. "Fat Lady" is the older and more widely-used name; "Sophia Loren" is the politer market rebrand that points at the same case thickness through the actress's curves rather than her weight. ~~Both nicknames~~ coexist in collector usage. The Phillips Geneva Watch Auction X (November 2019) catalog is the earliest dated print attribution in the surveyed sample to pair both names: "dubbed the 'Fat Lady' or 'Sophia Loren', the name comes from the elegant curves of its generously enhanced proportions." Sotheby's 2021 Hong Kong catalog echoes the same framing. Pre-2019 attribution exists in undated forum and dealer text; the first-print history has not been pinned to a specific writer.		Both nicknames derive from the case proportions driven by the 6.3mm caliber 3085. "Fat Lady" is the older and more widely-used name; "Sophia Loren" is the politer market rebrand that points at the same case thickness through the actress's curves rather than her weight. The two names coexist in collector usage. The Phillips Geneva Watch Auction X (November 2019) catalog is the earliest dated print attribution in the surveyed sample to pair both names: "dubbed the 'Fat Lady' or 'Sophia Loren', the name comes from the elegant curves of its generously enhanced proportions." Sotheby's 2021 Hong Kong catalog echoes the same framing. Pre-2019 attribution exists in undated forum and dealer text; the first-print history has not been pinned to a specific writer.

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	The 3085 ran in the Explorer II 16550 and the GMT-Master II 16760 only. Production span of the movement itself: 1983 to 1989. The 3185 replaced it on the 16710 with a slimmer profile and quick-set date restored.		The 3085 ran in the Explorer II 16550 and the GMT-Master II 16760 only. Production span of the movement itself: 1983 to 1989. The 3185 replaced it on the 16710 with a slimmer profile and quick-set date restored.

	A small contradiction surfaces in the 3085-vs-3185 ~~service-replacement~~ question. ~~Some service-period reads claim~~ late-~~fitment 3185 in some~~ 16760 cases~~, but every consulted auction catalog (~~Phillips Geneva X, Sotheby's HK, Bonhams Knightsbridge, both Christie's online lots~~) describes~~ a 3085 in the 16760, ~~including~~ 1988-dated examples. The ~~most likely reading~~ is ~~that Bernard's brief conflates Rolex's~~ service~~-era movement swaps with original fitment —~~ 3185 ~~swaps appear when~~ an entire movement ~~is replaced~~ at service~~, not as factory variation~~. ~~the question is unresolved~~.		A small contradiction surfaces in the 3085-vs-3185 question. One specialist reading holds that late-run 16760 cases received the 3185. The major-house lot records disagree: Phillips Geneva X, Sotheby's Hong Kong, Bonhams Knightsbridge, and both Christie's online lots describe a 3085 in the 16760, 1988-dated examples included. The likeliest explanation is service history rather than factory variation, since a 3185 turns up where an entire movement was swapped at service. Neither reading has been settled against a documented original-delivery example.

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	\|title=Rolex GMT-Master II 16760 'Fat Lady' — Coke Bezel, 1983–1988 \| BezelBase		\|title=Rolex GMT-Master II 16760 'Fat Lady' — Coke Bezel, 1983–1988 \| BezelBase
	\|description=The 16760 is the first GMT-Master II — first independently adjustable 24-hour hand on the line. 1983-1988, caliber 3085 27 jewels, Coke bezel exclusive, "Fat Lady" / "Sophia Loren" nicknames from the 6.3mm-thick caliber.		\|description=The 16760 is the first GMT-Master II — first independently adjustable 24-hour hand on the line. 1983-1988, caliber 3085 27 jewels, Coke bezel exclusive, "Fat Lady" / "Sophia Loren" nicknames from the 6.3mm-thick caliber.
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	The market reads the 16760 as a five-firsts watch — first GMT-Master II, first independently adjustable 24-hour hand, first red-and-black configuration on the line, first sapphire crystal, first white-gold-surround indices on a GMT — and prices it at the top end of the early ceramic-era market for clean original-condition examples.		The market reads the 16760 as a five-firsts watch — first GMT-Master II, first independently adjustable 24-hour hand, first red-and-black configuration on the line, first sapphire crystal, first white-gold-surround indices on a GMT — and prices it at the top end of the early ceramic-era market for clean original-condition examples.


			== Related references ==

			* [[Reference:16750\|GMT-Master 16750]] — 1979–1988
			* [[Reference:16753\|GMT-Master 16753]] — 1979–1988
			* [[Reference:16758\|GMT-Master 16758]] — 1979–1988
			* [[Reference:16700\|GMT-Master 16700]] — 1988–1998
			* [[Reference:16710\|GMT-Master 16710]] — Pepsi, Coke & Black (1989–2007)
			* [[Reference:16713\|GMT-Master 16713]] — 1989–2007

			See also the [[Reference:gmt-master\|GMT-Master family index]], [[Reference:Movements\|movement reference]], [[Reference:Bracelets\|bracelet & clasp guide]], and [[Reference:Serial-numbers\|serial numbers by year]].

	== Sources ==		== Sources ==

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	Caliber 3085 is the reason the reference exists. Specifications converge across the published literature: 27 jewels, 28,800 vph (4 Hz), 48-hour power reserve, 28.5mm diameter, 6.3mm thick. Adjusted to five positions and temperature, COSC chronometer-rated. Breguet hairspring, Microstella regulation, Kif shock protection, hacking seconds.		Caliber 3085 is the reason the reference exists. Specifications converge across the published literature: 27 jewels, 28,800 vph (4 Hz), 48-hour power reserve, 28.5mm diameter, 6.3mm thick. Adjusted to five positions and temperature, COSC chronometer-rated. Breguet hairspring, Microstella regulation, Kif shock protection, hacking seconds.

	The 3085 is the first Rolex caliber to dissociate the local hour hand from the 24-hour hand. The local hour hand sets in one-hour increments via the crown; the 24-hour hand follows the bezel for the third time zone. The trade-off was loss of quick-set date — on the 3085 the date advances via the local hour hand. The caliber's 6.3mm height drove the case proportions and the "Fat Lady" nickname ~~(Millenary explicitly attributes the nickname to the movement thickness)~~.		The 3085 is the first Rolex caliber to dissociate the local hour hand from the 24-hour hand. The local hour hand sets in one-hour increments via the crown; the 24-hour hand follows the bezel for the third time zone. The trade-off was loss of quick-set date — on the 3085 the date advances via the local hour hand. The caliber's 6.3mm height drove the case proportions and the "Fat Lady" nickname.

	The 3085 ran in the Explorer II 16550 and the GMT-Master II 16760 only. Production span of the movement itself: 1983 to 1989. The 3185 replaced it on the 16710 with a slimmer profile and quick-set date restored.		The 3085 ran in the Explorer II 16550 and the GMT-Master II 16760 only. Production span of the movement itself: 1983 to 1989. The 3185 replaced it on the 16710 with a slimmer profile and quick-set date restored.
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	=== Spider dial (Mark 1) ===		=== Spider dial (Mark 1) ===

	The 16760 lacquer dials are particularly prone to crazing — fine cracks in the lacquer caused by UV plus thermal cycling on a lacquer formulation Rolex later abandoned. Specialist registries catalog a 16760 as "Mark 1 Spider Dial." ~~Wannabuyawatch and~~ spider-dial ~~16760~~ examples ~~from~~ 1984. ~~Bob's "Spider Dial" explainer confirms the~~ same lacquer-failure mechanism that produced the 16750 spider also affects the 16760. ~~Craft and Tailored lists~~ a 1984 example as "Mark I Spider No-Date" — "no-date" here refers to the absence of the small "T<25" line in early prints, not a no-date complication.		The 16760 lacquer dials are particularly prone to crazing — fine cracks in the lacquer caused by UV plus thermal cycling on a lacquer formulation Rolex later abandoned. Specialist registries catalog a 16760 as "Mark 1 Spider Dial," with documented spider-dial examples dated to 1984. The same lacquer-failure mechanism that produced the 16750 spider also affects the 16760. Collector-market listings describe a 1984 example as "Mark I Spider No-Date" — "no-date" here refers to the absence of the small "T<25" line in early prints, not a no-date complication.

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	=== Aging and gloss-loss ===		=== Aging and gloss-loss ===

	Glossy dials shift toward a matte appearance with age ~~— Bob's notes this is~~ a surface-condition phenomenon~~, not~~ a factory variant. A matte-looking dial on a 16760 is most often original gloss with decades of aging; gloss-loss is not automatic evidence of refinishing. Spider crack patterns and the integrity of the white-gold surrounds are the primary originality tells.		Glossy dials shift toward a matte appearance with age, a surface-condition phenomenon rather than a factory variant. A matte-looking dial on a 16760 is most often original gloss with decades of aging; gloss-loss is not automatic evidence of refinishing. Spider crack patterns and the integrity of the white-gold surrounds are the primary originality tells.

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	[[File:Ref 16760 fat-lady-case.webp\|thumb\|right\|280px\|alt=Fat Lady case profile\|Fat Lady case profile]]		[[File:Ref 16760 fat-lady-case.webp\|thumb\|right\|280px\|alt=Fat Lady case profile\|Fat Lady case profile]]

	The case carries the headline 40mm GMT-Master Oyster footprint at 39.14mm wide ex-crown, 47.6mm lug-to-lug, 12.6mm thick (specialist documentation). The 16760 is approximately 0.6–1.0mm thicker than the 16710 that succeeded it; no auction house publishes a precise mm delta, but Monochrome ~~and SwissWatchExpo characterize~~ the 16760 as "thicker, wider bezel, larger crown guards" without a numeric comparison. The 6.3mm caliber 3085 underneath is the geometry driver.		The case carries the headline 40mm GMT-Master Oyster footprint at 39.14mm wide ex-crown, 47.6mm lug-to-lug, 12.6mm thick (specialist documentation). The 16760 is approximately 0.6–1.0mm thicker than the 16710 that succeeded it; no auction house publishes a precise mm delta, but Monochrome characterizes the 16760 as "thicker, wider bezel, larger crown guards" without a numeric comparison. The 6.3mm caliber 3085 underneath is the geometry driver.

	The crystal is sapphire with Cyclops — the 16760 is the first GMT-Master with a sapphire crystal. Water resistance is 100m. The crown is the screw-down 7mm with crown guards. Case construction follows the standard mid-1980s Rolex Oyster pattern; the only meaningful visual difference vs the 16710 is the thicker midcase and slightly broader crown guards.		The crystal is sapphire with Cyclops — the 16760 is the first GMT-Master with a sapphire crystal. Water resistance is 100m. The crown is the screw-down 7mm with crown guards. Case construction follows the standard mid-1980s Rolex Oyster pattern; the only meaningful visual difference vs the 16710 is the thicker midcase and slightly broader crown guards.
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	== Nicknames — Fat Lady and Sophia Loren ==		== Nicknames — Fat Lady and Sophia Loren ==

	Both nicknames derive from the case proportions driven by the 6.3mm caliber 3085. "Fat Lady" is the older and more widely-used name; "Sophia Loren" is the politer market rebrand that points at the same case thickness through the actress's curves rather than her weight. ~~Bob's "5 Firsts" notes both~~ nicknames coexist in collector usage. The Phillips Geneva Watch Auction X (November 2019) catalog is the earliest dated print attribution in the surveyed sample to pair both names: "dubbed the 'Fat Lady' or 'Sophia Loren', the name comes from the elegant curves of its generously enhanced proportions." Sotheby's 2021 Hong Kong catalog echoes the same framing. Pre-2019 attribution exists in undated forum and dealer text; the first-print history has not been pinned to a specific writer.		Both nicknames derive from the case proportions driven by the 6.3mm caliber 3085. "Fat Lady" is the older and more widely-used name; "Sophia Loren" is the politer market rebrand that points at the same case thickness through the actress's curves rather than her weight. Both nicknames coexist in collector usage. The Phillips Geneva Watch Auction X (November 2019) catalog is the earliest dated print attribution in the surveyed sample to pair both names: "dubbed the 'Fat Lady' or 'Sophia Loren', the name comes from the elegant curves of its generously enhanced proportions." Sotheby's 2021 Hong Kong catalog echoes the same framing. Pre-2019 attribution exists in undated forum and dealer text; the first-print history has not been pinned to a specific writer.

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