Reference:6105 - Revision history

Klaudiusz: Remove redlink and tighten Datejust authentication guidance

2026-09-29T08:15:19Z

Remove redlink and tighten Datejust authentication guidance

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	Dial feet position is the defining 6105-versus-4467 authentication check. A.295 and A.296 dial feet sit in different positions, and a 6105 dial on a 4467 movement (or vice versa) is not period-correct.		Dial feet position is the defining 6105-versus-4467 authentication check. A.295 and A.296 dial feet sit in different positions, and a 6105 dial on a 4467 movement (or vice versa) is not period-correct.
	Dial text: "Datejust" above six is the reference-defining feature. ~~Some dealers list Ovettone-era watches~~ as ~~6105 when the~~ dial ~~lacks "Datejust" text~~, a ~~catalog~~ error ~~rather than a rare variant. A 6105 without "Datejust" on the dial needs explanation~~.		Dial text: "Datejust" above six is the reference-defining feature. A 6105 listing without that text needs an explanation, such as a replacement dial, a case mismatch or a catalogue error.

	Case material is 18K yellow, 18K pink, or documented two-tone. A steel-only 6105 needs scrutiny against period documentation; the Ovettone bias toward gold is consistent with the 4467 era and only genuinely breaks with the 6305 that follows.		Case material is 18K yellow, 18K pink, or documented two-tone. A steel-only 6105 needs scrutiny against period documentation; the Ovettone bias toward gold is consistent with the 4467 era and only genuinely breaks with the 6305 that follows.

Klaudiusz: Deep correctness and anti-slop audit: reduce repeated Datejust prose, soften movement/authentication claims, add direct auction sources and family link

2026-09-29T08:14:54Z

Deep correctness and anti-slop audit: reduce repeated Datejust prose, soften movement/authentication claims, add direct auction sources and family link

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Klaudiusz: Post-publish lint correction and evidence qualification

2026-09-27T03:22:20Z

Post-publish lint correction and evidence qualification

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Klaudiusz: Deep correctness and anti-slop audit: sourced Datejust and movement revision

2026-09-27T03:21:52Z

Deep correctness and anti-slop audit: sourced Datejust and movement revision

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	<small>[[Reference:~~bubbleback~~\|~~Bubbleback~~]] → '''6105'''</small>		<small>[[Reference:datejust\|Datejust]] → '''6105'''</small>

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	== Movement: Cal. A.296 ==		== Movement: Cal. A.296 ==

	The 6105 ~~uses~~ Cal. A.296, ~~the next step up from the 4467's A.295 in the~~ Aegler automatic ~~family that powered the Ovettone references through the early 1950s~~. "A.296" denotes the movement's 29.6mm diameter. Rolex's parts-catalog nomenclature lists the same movement within the 740/745 family, consistent with how the 4467's A.295 appears as Cal. 740/745 in the same catalogs. The naming conventions run in parallel; the movement is one movement.		The cited 6105 catalogues identify Cal. A.296, an early Aegler automatic movement used in this period. "A.296" denotes the movement's 29.6mm diameter. Rolex's parts-catalog nomenclature lists the same movement within the 740/745 family, consistent with how the 4467's A.295 appears as Cal. 740/745 in the same catalogs. The naming conventions run in parallel; the movement is one movement.

	~~A.296 is the expected movement here:~~ 18 jewels~~, unidirectional~~ winding, no shock protection~~, and the same gradual~~ date change ~~the earlier Big Bubblebacks used~~. The fast takeaway is that the 6105 still belongs mechanically to the Bubbleback world, even as the Datejust name finally appears.		The cited examples list 18 jewels. The available lot descriptions do not establish a universal winding direction, shock-protection specification or date-change behaviour for every 6105. The fast takeaway is that the 6105 still belongs mechanically to the Bubbleback world, even as the Datejust name finally appears.

	One detail matters for authentication on 6105 and 4467 examples alike: the dial feet differ between A.295 and A.296, so the two references do not share period-correct dials.		One detail matters for authentication on 6105 and 4467 examples alike: the dial feet differ between A.295 and A.296, so the two references do not share period-correct dials.
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	Auction prices vary with case metal, dial and condition. The available sales are too few to establish a stable premium for pink gold, black gilt, Serpico dials or left-hand examples.		Auction prices vary with case metal, dial and condition. The available sales are too few to establish a stable premium for pink gold, black gilt, Serpico dials or left-hand examples.

	The market ~~position is steady rather than explosive. The 6105 matters more~~ for ~~what it is in~~ the ~~Datejust story than for any speculative market heat~~.		The available sales show different prices for different metals and dials. They are individual results, not a reliable market range for the reference.

	Auction coverage is thinner than for the 4467. The ~~practical split is enough: ordinary yellow gold at the baseline~~, ~~black gilt and signed-~~dial ~~watches above it~~, and ~~the rarest destro pieces beyond normal pricing ranges~~.		Auction coverage is thinner than for the 4467. The records are too sparse to rank configurations by price. Case condition, dial originality, metal and accessories all affect a result.

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	The 6105 is an early Datejust reference with the model name printed on the dial. It is often cited as the first such reference. A photographed 6075 with the same wording complicates that account, but its dial was graded restored and does not prove original fitment. The earliest factory use of the dial text is not established by these auction records.		The 6105 is an early Datejust reference with the model name printed on the dial. It is often cited as the first such reference. A photographed 6075 with the same wording complicates that account, but its dial was graded restored and does not prove original fitment. The earliest factory use of the dial text is not established by these auction records.


			== Auction record ==

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			\| [https://catalog.antiquorum.swiss/en/lots/rolex-ref-6105-oyster-perpetual-lot-372-281 Antiquorum, lot 281] \|\| circa 1950, pink gold, case 791548, black dial, A296, 36 mm \|\| CHF 16,250
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			\| [https://www.monacolegendauctions.com/auction/exclusive-timepieces-37/lot-125 Monaco Legend, lot 125] \|\| 1951, pink gold, case 837513, A.296, 36 mm \|\| CHF 12,500 incl. premium
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			\| [https://www.christies.com/en/lot/lot-5091513 Christie’s] \|\| circa 1952, 18K gold, case 820172, black dial, A.296, 35 mm \|\| estimate US$6,500–9,000
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			\| [https://www.monacolegendauctions.com/auction/exclusive-timepieces-25/lot-272 Monaco Legend, lot 272] \|\| 1953, yellow gold, case 971852, A.296, 36 mm, box and tag \|\| €268,750 incl. premium
			\|}

	== Related references ==		== Related references ==

Admin: Clarify Datejust dial-text chronology in the lead

2026-09-23T03:07:48Z

Clarify Datejust dial-text chronology in the lead

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	The 6105 is an early Datejust reference with the name printed on the dial. Auction catalogues place examples in the early 1950s and identify A.296 and 745-family movements. Antiquorum’s [https://catalog.antiquorum.swiss/en/lots/rolex-lot-108-122 photograph of ref. 6075 case 685082] shows the same word, but the catalogue grades that dial restored. That image does not establish factory fitment~~, so~~ the 6105 ~~is often credited~~ as the first dial-~~text reference rather than proven here as~~ the ~~only possible first~~.		The 6105 is an early Datejust reference with the name printed on the dial. Auction catalogues place examples in the early 1950s and identify A.296 and 745-family movements. Antiquorum’s [https://catalog.antiquorum.swiss/en/lots/rolex-lot-108-122 photograph of ref. 6075 case 685082] shows the same word, but the catalogue grades that dial restored. That image does not establish factory fitment. Collectors often credit the 6105 as the first dial-signed Datejust, but the earliest factory use of the name remains unresolved.

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Admin: Fix breadcrumb markup and remove unsupported price hierarchy

2026-09-23T03:06:45Z

Fix breadcrumb markup and remove unsupported price hierarchy

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	<small>[[Reference:bubbleback\|Bubbleback]] → '''6105''</small>		<small>[[Reference:bubbleback\|Bubbleback]] → '''6105'''</small>

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	== Collecting and auction context ==		== Collecting and auction context ==

	~~The 6105 does not reach 4467 money~~, ~~but the spread is still real~~. ~~Yellow gold is the baseline,~~ pink gold ~~carries a premium~~, black gilt ~~dials carry more~~, ~~and~~ Serpico or ~~destro~~ examples ~~sit above that again. The rarest watches trade too infrequently to set a stable price~~.		Auction prices vary with case metal, dial and condition. The available sales are too few to establish a stable premium for pink gold, black gilt, Serpico dials or left-hand examples.

	The market position is steady rather than explosive. The 6105 matters more for what it is in the Datejust story than for any speculative market heat.		The market position is steady rather than explosive. The 6105 matters more for what it is in the Datejust story than for any speculative market heat.

Admin: Clarify early Datejust dial-text chronology against catalogued 6075 example

2026-09-23T03:05:52Z

Clarify early Datejust dial-text chronology against catalogued 6075 example

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Admin: site-wide: layout classes (core-facts card, breadcrumb, entry-point cards)

2026-09-05T01:21:55Z

site-wide: layout classes (core-facts card, breadcrumb, entry-point cards)

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Admin: site-wide: domain move BezelBase → Rolexopedia (rolexopedia.net)

2026-09-05T00:38:05Z

site-wide: domain move BezelBase → Rolexopedia (rolexopedia.net)

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2026-08-04T00:21:59Z

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