Reference:8171 - Revision history

Admin: Align 8171 source list with Rolex Newsroom citation

2026-10-11T13:07:58Z

Align 8171 source list with Rolex Newsroom citation

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	* [https://www.christies.com/en/lot/lot-6185890 Christie's: 6062 case 916321, caliber 655]		* [https://www.christies.com/en/lot/lot-6185890 Christie's: 6062 case 916321, caliber 655]
	* [https://content.rolex.com/dam/media/brochures/cellini/m50535-0002.pdf Rolex: Cellini Moonphase 50535 brochure]		* [https://content.rolex.com/dam/media/brochures/cellini/m50535-0002.pdf Rolex: Cellini Moonphase 50535 brochure]
	* [https://~~www~~.rolex.com/watches/new-watches/perpetual-padellone Rolex: Perpetual Padellone, 2026; ~~identifies historic 8171 as inspiration~~]		* [https://newsroom.rolex.com/fr/watches/new-watches/perpetual-padellone Rolex Newsroom: Perpetual Padellone, 15 September 2026; gives name origin and Cal. 7190]
	* [https://www.bonhams.com/auction/24235/lot/115/rolex-a-very-rare-18k-gold-automatic-triple-calendar-wristwatch-with-moon-phase-padellone-ref-8171-circa-1955/ Bonhams London, 13 December 2017, lot 115, refinished gold example]		* [https://www.bonhams.com/auction/24235/lot/115/rolex-a-very-rare-18k-gold-automatic-triple-calendar-wristwatch-with-moon-phase-padellone-ref-8171-circa-1955/ Bonhams London, 13 December 2017, lot 115, refinished gold example]
	* [https://www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auction/2020/important-watches-2/rolex-padellone-reference-8171-a-stainless-steel Sotheby's Hong Kong, 9 October 2020, lot 2143, case 686356]		* [https://www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auction/2020/important-watches-2/rolex-padellone-reference-8171-a-stainless-steel Sotheby's Hong Kong, 9 October 2020, lot 2143, case 686356]

Admin: Clarify Rolex naming source for 2026 Padellone

2026-10-11T13:06:58Z

Clarify Rolex naming source for 2026 Padellone

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	Rolex later used a moonphase display in the Cellini 50535. Its pointer date accompanies the moonphase; it has no day or month windows. [https://content.rolex.com/dam/media/brochures/cellini/m50535-0002.pdf Rolex, Cellini brochure]		Rolex later used a moonphase display in the Cellini 50535. Its pointer date accompanies the moonphase; it has no day or month windows. [https://content.rolex.com/dam/media/brochures/cellini/m50535-0002.pdf Rolex, Cellini brochure]

	In 2026, Rolex ~~used the name “Perpetual Padellone” for a modern~~ annual-calendar moonphase watch ~~and identified the historic~~ 8171 ~~as its inspiration~~. ~~That current~~ model ~~is a different watch with a different movement and calendar mechanism~~. [https://~~www~~.rolex.com/watches/new-watches/perpetual-padellone Rolex, ~~Perpetual Padellone~~]		In 2026, Rolex named its new annual-calendar moonphase watch after ref. 8171, which collectors call Padellone. The new model uses Cal. 7190. [https://newsroom.rolex.com/fr/watches/new-watches/perpetual-padellone Rolex Newsroom, 2026]

	== Production outline ==		== Production outline ==

Klaudiusz: Fix 8171 SEO hero filename and gallery markup

2026-09-29T06:37:43Z

Fix 8171 SEO hero filename and gallery markup

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	\|description=Rolex 8171 Padellone: the 38 mm automatic calendar moonphase, made around 1949–1953. Dial variants, case details and documented auction examples.		\|description=Rolex 8171 Padellone: the 38 mm automatic calendar moonphase, made around 1949–1953. Dial variants, case details and documented auction examples.
	\|keywords=Rolex, 8171, Padellone, specifications, reference guide		\|keywords=Rolex, 8171, Padellone, specifications, reference guide
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	Start with the case number, dial layout and a clear movement photograph. Compare the date-track printing and the edges of the calendar windows with a documented example of the same layout. Record refinishing, replacement crowns and later-added bracelets separately from original-delivery claims. Sotheby's black-dial watch has a documented restoration, while Clymer's watch has a later-added bracelet. [https://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2014/watches-n09235/lot.309.html Sotheby's, lot 309]; [https://www.phillips.com/detail/rolex/NY080424/33 Phillips, lot 33]		Start with the case number, dial layout and a clear movement photograph. Compare the date-track printing and the edges of the calendar windows with a documented example of the same layout. Record refinishing, replacement crowns and later-added bracelets separately from original-delivery claims. Sotheby's black-dial watch has a documented restoration, while Clymer's watch has a later-added bracelet. [https://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2014/watches-n09235/lot.309.html Sotheby's, lot 309]; [https://www.phillips.com/detail/rolex/NY080424/33 Phillips, lot 33]

	~~== Gallery ==~~

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Admin: Deep audit 8171: remove stale anchors, qualify modern Padellone distinction, and add current Rolex source

2026-09-28T17:51:28Z

Deep audit 8171: remove stale anchors, qualify modern Padellone distinction, and add current Rolex source

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 The Rolex 8171 is an automatic wristwatch with day and month windows, a pointer date and a moonphase display. It was made around 1949–1952/1953 in steel, yellow gold and pink gold. Its 38 mm case has a snap-on back. Collectors call it ''Padellone'', Italian for “big frying pan.” [https://www.fratellowatches.com/what-makes-the-rolex-padellone-ref-8171-so-special/ Fratello, 2024]; [https://www.phillips.com/detail/rolex/214766 Phillips, lot 72]
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 Rolex later used a moonphase display in the Cellini 50535. Its pointer date accompanies the moonphase; it has no day or month windows. [https://content.rolex.com/dam/media/brochures/cellini/m50535-0002.pdf Rolex, Cellini brochure]
 == Production outline ==
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 * [https://www.christies.com/en/lot/lot-6185890 Christie's: 6062 case 916321, caliber 655]
 * [https://content.rolex.com/dam/media/brochures/cellini/m50535-0002.pdf Rolex: Cellini Moonphase 50535 brochure]
 * [https://www.bonhams.com/auction/24235/lot/115/rolex-a-very-rare-18k-gold-automatic-triple-calendar-wristwatch-with-moon-phase-padellone-ref-8171-circa-1955/ Bonhams London, 13 December 2017, lot 115, refinished gold example]
 * [https://www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auction/2020/important-watches-2/rolex-padellone-reference-8171-a-stainless-steel Sotheby's Hong Kong, 9 October 2020, lot 2143, case 686356]

Admin: Audit 8171 prose, dial and movement claims; expand sourced variant and auction coverage

2026-09-17T13:17:05Z

Audit 8171 prose, dial and movement claims; expand sourced variant and auction coverage

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Admin: Add sources footer entries for 6062 caliber correction and 2026 Perpetual Padellone mention

2026-09-17T03:57:15Z

Add sources footer entries for 6062 caliber correction and 2026 Perpetual Padellone mention

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	* [https://hairspring.com/ Hairspring — 8171]		* [https://hairspring.com/ Hairspring — 8171]
	* [https://www.bobswatches.com/ Bob's Watches — watches 8171]		* [https://www.bobswatches.com/ Bob's Watches — watches 8171]
			* [https://www.christies.com/en/lot/lot-6446730 Christie's — ref. 6062 "Stelline," 18K pink gold, case 788'629 (ex-Gordon Bethune)]
			* [https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-rolex-6062-triple-calendar-moonphase-and-why-it-remains-the-biggest-star-in-all-of-vintage-rolex In-Depth: The Rolex 6062 Triple Calendar Moonphase] — Hodinkee, 2023-10-27
			* [https://monochrome-watches.com/2026-rolex-perpetual-padellone-annual-calendar-moonphase-dynapulse-53505-53506-review-video-price/ The new Rolex Perpetual Padellone, The Return of an Icon] — Brice Goulard, Monochrome Watches, 2026-09-15

	[[Category:Padellone]]		[[Category:Padellone]]

Admin: Note the 2026 Perpetual Padellone revival as context (out-of-scope current production, linked via the new family hub)

2026-09-17T03:56:47Z

Note the 2026 Perpetual Padellone revival as context (out-of-scope current production, linked via the new family hub)

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	The Padellone sits at the chronograph-and-complication tail of the same era as the [[Reference:pre-daytona-chronographs\|pre-Daytona chronograph]] line; the 8171 carries the calendar-and-moonphase complication while the 3525 / 4xxx / 6034 / 6234 / 6238 references carry the chronograph complication into the 6239 and the Cosmograph Daytona.		The Padellone sits at the chronograph-and-complication tail of the same era as the [[Reference:pre-daytona-chronographs\|pre-Daytona chronograph]] line; the 8171 carries the calendar-and-moonphase complication while the 3525 / 4xxx / 6034 / 6234 / 6238 references carry the chronograph complication into the 6239 and the Cosmograph Daytona.

			Rolex itself revived the name in September 2026 with the Perpetual Padellone (refs. 53505/53506), a modern annual-calendar moonphase dress watch that credits both the 8171 and the 6062 as its ancestors. It is current production and outside this wiki's pre-2020 scope; see the [[Reference:padellone\|Padellone family hub]] for that context.

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Admin: Fix breadcrumb (was pointing to Bubbleback; now points to new Padellone family hub) and correct 6062 caliber claim (655, not shared A.295 CPL) with sourcing

2026-09-17T03:56:28Z

Fix breadcrumb (was pointing to Bubbleback; now points to new Padellone family hub) and correct 6062 caliber claim (655, not shared A.295 CPL) with sourcing

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	<small>[[Reference:~~bubbleback~~\|~~Bubbleback~~]] › '''8171'''</small>		<small>[[Reference:padellone\|Padellone]] › '''8171'''</small>

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	== The 6062 and the complication pair ==		== The 6062 and the complication pair ==

	The 8171's sister reference is the 6062, the Oyster-cased version of the same complication set, produced concurrently in 18K yellow gold, 18K pink gold, and stainless steel. Same ~~A.295 CPL movement, same~~ day-month-date-moonphase complication set, same general dial architecture. The differences are case construction and case size. The 6062 is an Oyster: 36mm, screw-down caseback, screw-down crown, waterproof. The 8171 is non-Oyster: 38mm, snap-on caseback, dress crown, non-waterproof.		The 8171's sister reference is the 6062, the Oyster-cased version of the same complication set, produced concurrently in 18K yellow gold, 18K pink gold, and stainless steel. Same day-month-date-moonphase complication set, same general dial architecture — but a different movement. The 6062 runs caliber 655, a "Super-Balance" automatic built specifically for that model; Christie's and Sotheby's lot cataloguing and Hodinkee's dedicated in-depth piece on the 6062 all independently name caliber 655, correcting an earlier claim on this page that the two references shared the same A.295 CPL movement (a Phillips collectors' guide does describe the pair as sharing "the same self-winding caliber," but the more specific auction-house cataloguing is the better-evidenced reading). The differences that do hold are case construction and case size. The 6062 is an Oyster: 36mm, screw-down caseback, screw-down crown, waterproof. The 8171 is non-Oyster: 38mm, snap-on caseback, dress crown, non-waterproof.

	Within Rolex history, the 6062 and 8171 are treated as a pair. Collector vocabulary uses both names without hierarchy. Auction catalogs cross-reference: Phillips, Sotheby's, Christie's, and Bonhams all describe the 8171 and the 6062 in each other's terms when one surfaces. The 6062 produced the Bao Dai result: Phillips Geneva May 2017, CHF 5,066,000, the black dial diamond-marker example commissioned by the last Vietnamese emperor. That lot is not an 8171 lot, but it is the apex of the complication pair's market history and sits on a watch that is mechanically identical to the 8171 beneath the Oyster case.		Within Rolex history, the 6062 and 8171 are treated as a pair. Collector vocabulary uses both names without hierarchy. Auction catalogs cross-reference: Phillips, Sotheby's, Christie's, and Bonhams all describe the 8171 and the 6062 in each other's terms when one surfaces. The 6062 produced the Bao Dai result: Phillips Geneva May 2017, CHF 5,066,000, the black dial diamond-marker example commissioned by the last Vietnamese emperor. That lot is not an 8171 lot, but it is the apex of the complication pair's market history and sits on a watch that is mechanically identical to the 8171 beneath the Oyster case.
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	== Related references ==		== Related references ==

	The 6062 is the Oyster-cased sibling: ~~same A.295 CPL movement~~, same complication set, 36mm screw-down Oyster case, produced concurrently in yellow gold, pink gold, and stainless steel. The Bao Dai 6062 (Phillips May 2017, CHF 5,066,000) is the highest public result for the complication pair.		The 6062 is the Oyster-cased sibling: caliber 655, same complication set, 36mm screw-down Oyster case, produced concurrently in yellow gold, pink gold, and stainless steel. The Bao Dai 6062 (Phillips May 2017, CHF 5,066,000) is the highest public result for the complication pair, since surpassed by an October 2025 6062 sale — see [[Reference:6062\|Reference:6062]] and the [[Reference:padellone\|Padellone family hub]] for the full pair.

	The Rolex Datocompax chronographs (4767, 5036, 6036, 6236) are chronograph-plus-calendar references of the same era, using the Valjoux 72C ébauche with Rolex finishing. They are not mechanically related to the 8171 (different base caliber, chronograph function), but they occupy the same complication-flagship segment Rolex addressed in the late 1940s and early 1950s. The 6236, produced from 1958, is known as the "Jean-Claude Killy" after the skier's ownership of one.		The Rolex Datocompax chronographs (4767, 5036, 6036, 6236) are chronograph-plus-calendar references of the same era, using the Valjoux 72C ébauche with Rolex finishing. They are not mechanically related to the 8171 (different base caliber, chronograph function), but they occupy the same complication-flagship segment Rolex addressed in the late 1940s and early 1950s. The 6236, produced from 1958, is known as the "Jean-Claude Killy" after the skier's ownership of one.

Admin: Place converted dial front/reverse gallery in dial section

2026-09-14T04:46:23Z

Place converted dial front/reverse gallery in dial section

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	== The dial ==		== The dial ==

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			File:Ref 8171 dial.webp\|alt=8171 dial, front\|8171 dial, front
			File:Ref 8171 dial-reverse.webp\|alt=8171 dial, reverse — day, month, and moonphase disc apertures\|8171 dial, reverse — day, month, and moonphase disc apertures
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	Dial text follows the Rolex convention of the period. Coronet at 12, "Rolex" beneath, then "Oyster Perpetual" on two lines. Below 6, above the moonphase aperture, either "Officially Certified Chronometer" or "Precision"; both are correct, both appear on documented examples, and the two configurations do not track cleanly to case material or production year. Day and month are printed in small apertures flanking the 12 position. The date runs around the dial periphery as a printed track, read by a central blued-steel pointer hand. The moonphase aperture at 6 shows the waxing and waning crescent across a starfield, with the moon disc rotating through the lunar cycle.		Dial text follows the Rolex convention of the period. Coronet at 12, "Rolex" beneath, then "Oyster Perpetual" on two lines. Below 6, above the moonphase aperture, either "Officially Certified Chronometer" or "Precision"; both are correct, both appear on documented examples, and the two configurations do not track cleanly to case material or production year. Day and month are printed in small apertures flanking the 12 position. The date runs around the dial periphery as a printed track, read by a central blued-steel pointer hand. The moonphase aperture at 6 shows the waxing and waning crescent across a starfield, with the moon disc rotating through the lunar cycle.

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2026-09-14T01:23:04Z

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	[[File:~~Ref 8171 hero~~.~~jpg~~\|thumb\|center\|640px\|alt=Rolex 8171 Padellone, yellow gold, triple-calendar moonphase\|Rolex 8171 Padellone, yellow gold, triple-calendar moonphase]]		[[File:Ref_8171_hero.webp\|thumb\|center\|640px\|alt=Rolex 8171 Padellone, yellow gold, triple-calendar moonphase\|Rolex 8171 Padellone, yellow gold, triple-calendar moonphase]]
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	== Movement: A.295 CPL ==		== Movement: A.295 CPL ==
	[[File:~~Ref 8171 movement~~.~~jpg~~\|thumb\|right\|280px\|alt=8171 movement and calendar mechanism\|8171 movement with triple-calendar mechanism and moonphase disc]]		[[File:Ref_8171_movement.webp\|thumb\|right\|280px\|alt=8171 movement and calendar mechanism\|8171 movement with triple-calendar mechanism and moonphase disc]]