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|title=Rolex Submariner 5517 'MilSub' — Military Issue, 1971–1974 | Rolexopedia
|title=Rolex Submariner 5517 'MilSub' — Military Issue, 1971–1974 | Rolexopedia
|description=The 5517 is the British military Submariner. Three batches across roughly 1972-1979, fixed bars, full 60-minute bezel, sword hands, T SWISS T tritium dial. Phillips Geneva XIV 2021 CHF 504,000 result is the public auction record.
|description=The 5517 is a Submariner reference associated with British military procurement. Surviving records show fixed bars, full-minute bezels, sword-hand examples, and T SWISS T tritium dials across several case-marking groups.
|keywords=Rolex, 5517, MilSub, Royal Navy, military Submariner, broadsword hands, T SWISS T
|keywords=Rolex, 5517, MilSub, Royal Navy, military Submariner, broadsword hands, T SWISS T
|image=Ref 5517 hero.webp
|image=Ref 5517 hero 3.webp
|image_alt=Rolex Submariner Ref. 5517
|image_alt=Rolex Submariner Ref. 5517
|type=Article
|type=Article
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| caliber 1520, 26 jewels (Major-house lots universal: Phillips, Sotheby's, Antiquorum, Bonhams, Horobox all read 1520; the 1570 forum claim looks like contamination from standard 5512 / 5513 cases that can house either)
| caliber 1520, 26 jewels in the major-house lots cited here; inspect the individual movement
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== Where it sits in the line ==
== Where it sits in the line ==


The 5517 sits outside the ordinary retail no-date Submariner line in the cited records. Military examples are distinguished by fixed bars, full-minute bezels, luminous-dial markings, sword hands on many examples, and military caseback engravings. These features are associated with Ministry of Defence specifications; the surviving records do not document the requirement for every individual part.
The 5517 sits outside the ordinary retail no-date Submariner line in the cited records. The surviving military examples show fixed bars, full-minute bezels, luminous-dial markings, sword hands on many examples, and military caseback engravings. These features are associated with Ministry of Defence specifications; the surviving records do not document the requirement for every individual part.


The 5514 COMEX and 5517 are separate non-standard branches of the 5513-era Submariner. The 5514 is associated with COMEX; 5517 records include British military issue. Earlier military Submariner references, including A/6538 examples, predate the 5517.
The 5514 COMEX and 5517 are separate non-standard branches of the 5513-era Submariner. The 5514 is associated with COMEX; 5517 records include British military issue. Earlier military Submariner references, including A/6538 examples, predate the 5517.
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== Bracelets, end links, clasps, and packaging notes ==
== Bracelets, end links, clasps, and packaging notes ==


[[File:Ref 5517 hero 2.webp|thumb|right|250px|alt=Rolex Submariner Ref. 5517|Rolex Submariner Ref. 5517]]
The cited military examples are shown on fabric straps, and the fixed bars constrain bracelet fit. Packaging and original delivery accessories are less consistently documented than the watches themselves; do not infer a complete packaging standard from one lot.


The cited military examples are shown on fabric straps, and the fixed bars constrain bracelet fit. Packaging and original delivery accessories are less consistently documented than the watches themselves; do not infer a complete packaging standard from one lot.
[[File:Ref 5517 hero 2.webp|thumb|right|250px|alt=Rolex Submariner Ref. 5517 on military strap|Rolex Submariner Ref. 5517 on military strap]]


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== Authentication ==
== Authentication ==


The 5517’s military parts and provenance make authentication difficult, and genuine examples have sold for high prices in the cited auctions. A standard 5513 can be altered with replacement parts, so case, bezel, dial, hands, engravings, movement, and provenance must be checked together.
The 5517’s military parts and provenance make authentication difficult. A standard 5513 can be altered with replacement parts, so case, bezel, dial, hands, engravings, movement, and provenance must be checked together.


Phillips documents examples with caseback and movement or case-number histories that require explanation. A non-matching number requires documented service or issue history. A matching set still needs the same provenance and physical checks.
Phillips documents examples with caseback and movement or case-number histories that require explanation. A non-matching number requires documented service or issue history. A matching set still needs the same provenance and physical checks.
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The 5517 is the dedicated Submariner of the [[Reference:milsub|MilSub]] program, used in the third Royal Navy batch after the first two ran on 5513 cases. It sits inside the [[Reference:submariner-5xxx-family|5xxx Submariner family]] with the chronometer 5512, the long-run civilian 5513, and the COMEX 5514.
The 5517 is the dedicated Submariner of the [[Reference:milsub|MilSub]] program, used in the third Royal Navy batch after the first two ran on 5513 cases. It sits inside the [[Reference:submariner-5xxx-family|5xxx Submariner family]] with the chronometer 5512, the long-run civilian 5513, and the COMEX 5514.
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File:Ref 5517 hero 3.webp|Rolex Submariner 5517 military-issue case and dial
File:Ref 5517 hero 2.webp|5517 on a military fabric strap with fixed bars
File:Ref 5517 hero.webp|5517 reference example
</gallery>


== Sources ==
== Sources ==