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| [[Reference:4467|4467]] || 1945–1949 || Cal. A.295 (= 740/745), 18j || 36mm 18K YG/PG tonneau, 2-piece || Early Datejust; early Jubilee and solid end-link configuration; ''Ovettone''; date wheel evolves all-black → all-red → roulette | | [[Reference:4467|4467]] || 1945–1949 || Cal. A.295 (= 740/745), 18j || 36mm 18K YG/PG tonneau, 2-piece || Early Datejust; early Jubilee and solid end-link configuration; ''Ovettone''; date wheel evolves all-black → all-red → roulette | ||
| [[Reference:4984|4984]] || Christie's/HENRY's c.1940s–c.1945 (likely same watch); About Time estimates c.1947; span unknown || Automatic; caliber not identified; movement nos. N15927 (likely repeat sale) and N880639 || ~32mm; pink- and yellow-gold examples || Two photographed watches; individual two-tone and silver dial descriptions; no factory variant range established | |||
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| [[Reference:5030|5030]] || circa 1948 || Cal. A.295 / 740 (see reference-specific sources) || 36mm; solid gold examples || Early date-equipped Oyster Perpetual; paired with the 5031 in some collector usage | | [[Reference:5030|5030]] || circa 1948 || Cal. A.295 / 740 (see reference-specific sources) || 36mm; solid gold examples || Early date-equipped Oyster Perpetual; paired with the 5031 in some collector usage | ||
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| [[Reference:6105|6105]] || Early 1950s; catalogue dates vary || A.296 and 745-attributed examples || 36mm; gold and two-tone examples || Early dial-signed Datejust; often credited as first, but factory first use is not settled by the 6075 restored dial | | [[Reference:6105|6105]] || Early 1950s; catalogue dates vary || A.296 and 745-attributed examples || 36mm; gold and two-tone examples || Early dial-signed Datejust; often credited as first, but factory first use is not settled by the 6075 restored dial | ||
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== Late small Bubbleback examples == | |||
Auction catalogues date individual ref. 5002 watches from circa 1945 to circa 1952, and ref. 5006 examples from 1948 into the 1950s. The 5002 records describe 23–26 mm steel, two-tone, and gold cases; 5006 records give 29–30 mm steel and gold examples. The 5002 caliber attribution is uncertain: James Dowling assigns Cal. 420, a centre-seconds movement, while 5002 catalogues describe subsidiary seconds. Numeric caliber attribution for 5006 remains unresolved. These are dates and configurations of individual watches, not production endpoints. [https://catalog.antiquorum.swiss/en/lots/rolex-ref-5006-lot-272-142 Antiquorum, case 671819] [https://www.ebth.com/items/14105766-1948-rolex-oyster-perpetual-bubble-back-watch EBTH, item 14105766] [https://timeanagram.com/products/7593 TimeAnagram, product 7593] [https://www.arsvalue.com/en/lots/1423503/rolex-ovetto-5006-anni-50?nav=True Finarte, lot 33] [https://irp-cdn.multiscreensite.com/0b5fdf83/files/uploaded/1.0%20RolexBook-23Mar.pdf ''Vintage Rolex Field Manual'', p. 107] | |||
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| [[Reference:5002|5002]] || Catalogue dates circa 1945–1952; run unverified || Automatic; Cal. 420 assignment uncertain because its catalogue describes centre-seconds, while 5002 lots describe subsidiary seconds || 23–26 mm in cited lots; steel, steel/pink gold, yellow gold, pink gold, and rose gold || Ladies’ Oyster Perpetual with subsidiary seconds; Field Manual lists /7 and /8 suffix descriptions, not tied to observed lots | |||
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| [[Reference:5003|5003]] || Individual catalogue estimates circa 1949–1953; later 1960s estimates and a weak circa-1972 transcription conflict; run unverified || Automatic, subsidiary seconds; numeric caliber unidentified || 23–27 mm; steel, steel/gold, 10K and 18K gold examples || Ladies’ Oyster Perpetual; Field Manual lists /3, /7, /8 variants, not matched to auction examples | |||
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| [[Reference:5006|5006]] || Individual records dated 1948 through the 1950s; run unverified || Automatic; Field Manual lists Chronometer Perpetual variants; numeric caliber unresolved || 29–30 mm; steel, steel with yellow- or rose-gold bezel, and gold listed || Mid-size suffix variants 5006/3 and 5006/7 in the Field Manual; auction dial descriptions differ | |||
| [[Reference:5010|5010]] || Catalogue examples circa 1945–1955; production span unverified || Automatic, centre seconds; 9¾-ligne size in catalogues, numbered caliber unresolved || Steel and two-tone; 31–33 mm in cited records || Oyster Perpetual grouped with Bubblebacks by collectors; Phillips records a 1950 Anno Sancto bezel. [https://www.christies.com/lot/lot-856369 Christie's] [https://catalog.antiquorum.swiss/en/lots/rolex-ref-5010-bubbleback-lot-313-136 Antiquorum] [https://www.phillips.com/detail/rolex/CH080515/282 Phillips] [https://electronicsandbooks.com/edt/manual/Art/Auction/Bonhams/2022/20220524%20S-27810-0-1%20Montres%20de%20Prestige.pdf Bonhams, lot 276] | |||
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| [[Reference:8171|8171]] || c.1949–1953 || Cal. A.295 CPL automatic triple calendar moonphase, in-house Aegler || 38mm non-Oyster snap caseback, 18K YG/PG, SS rare || Triple calendar + moonphase; ''Padellone''; published examples include stainless steel and gold cases | | [[Reference:8171|8171]] || c.1949–1953 || Cal. A.295 CPL automatic triple calendar moonphase, in-house Aegler || 38mm non-Oyster snap caseback, 18K YG/PG, SS rare || Triple calendar + moonphase; ''Padellone''; published examples include stainless steel and gold cases | ||
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== Ref. 4919 == | |||
Auction catalogues identify ref. 4919 as an Oyster Perpetual and date individual examples from circa 1947 to the 1950s; Farsettiarte dates a caseback-marked example circa 1960. A secondary copy of an Antiquorum catalogue assigns one example to the 1930s, in conflict with those later dates; see [[Reference:4919|the 4919 article]] for the source and limits. None sets a production span. Auction descriptions and an undated technical table give an automatic 9¾-line movement, but no numeric caliber is confirmed. Collectors group 4919 with Bubblebacks. [https://catalog.antiquorum.swiss/en/lots/rolex-lot-221-365 Antiquorum, case 608098] [https://www.christies.com/en/lot/lot-1720329 Christie's] [https://www.farsettiarte.it/uploads/auctions/187-asta_257_Orologi_5_dicembre_2024.pdf Farsettiarte, lot 50] [https://www.vrfm.io/Scans/OYSTER-CROWNS-GUIDE.pdf Rolex Boîtes Oyster table] | |||
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| [[Reference:4919|4919]] || One copied catalogue gives a 1930s outlier; others date examples circa 1947–1960; production span unknown || Automatic, 9¾-line in catalogues; numeric caliber unresolved || Steel with yellow- or pink-gold bezels; 31–34 mm in cited examples || Separate dial layouts include a Serpico y Laino-signed example; Tennants reports one caseback marked 4919 5011, unexplained | |||
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* [https://www.darlor-watch.com/rolex_watches_3.html Darlor Vintage Watches, ref. 3351-F, serial 118,489] | * [https://www.darlor-watch.com/rolex_watches_3.html Darlor Vintage Watches, ref. 3351-F, serial 118,489] | ||
* [https://www.vintagewatch.ca/5629-antique-rolex-oyster-cushion-case-with-sweep-seconds-circa-1930/ Trebor's Vintage Watches, ref. 3351f] | * [https://www.vintagewatch.ca/5629-antique-rolex-oyster-cushion-case-with-sweep-seconds-circa-1930/ Trebor's Vintage Watches, ref. 3351f] | ||
* [https://electronicsandbooks.com/edt/manual/Art/Auction/Bonhams/2022/20220524%20S-27810-0-1%20Montres%20de%20Prestige.pdf Bonhams Paris, 24 May 2022, ref. 5010, lot 276] | |||
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