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[[File:Ref4467_phillips_roulette_518506.jpg|thumb|right|340px|Rolex 4467, the first Datejust (1945), 18K yellow gold, roulette date wheel. Case 518506 sold Phillips 2018 for CHF 33,750.]]
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The 4467 is the first Datejust, launched in 1945 for Rolex’s 40th anniversary and the first automatic wristwatch with a date window. Every mechanical Rolex with a calendar, from the 6305 through the current 126234, descends from it. The 4467 debuts the Jubilee bracelet, introduces a reeded coin-edge bezel that becomes the Datejust’s fluted signature, and sells its first hundred units by newspaper subscription to buyers who did not yet know what a Datejust was. None of the later Datejust language is here. No Cyclops, no “Datejust” text on the dial, no instantaneous midnight jump. What exists is the concept, executed in 18K gold, in a 36mm Big Bubbleback case that Italian auction houses call the ''Ovettone''.
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[[File:Ref_4467_hero.webp|thumb|center|640px|alt=Rolex 4467 Datejust Bubbleback|Rolex 4467 Datejust Bubbleback]]
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Reference 4467 is the 36mm gold Bubbleback introduced in 1945. It is the first reference later called Datejust, with an automatic date display, a large Oyster case, and the early Jubilee bracelet. The dial does not say “Datejust”; that wording appears on later references. Published auction records cover yellow-gold watches and a small number of pink-gold examples, with differences in dials, date wheels, bracelets, and subscription numbering.


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== Core facts ==
==Core facts==


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| production
| production
| 1945–1949 (some serialized examples appear into the mid-1950s)
| Published examples date from circa 1945 to 1949; no factory production ledger located
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|-
| total production
| total production
| approximately 1,000 units
| Roughly 1,000 is an external estimate, not a Rolex production total
|-
|-
| case diameter
| case diameter
| 36mm (approximate; tonneau case, measurement varies)
| About 36mm
|-
|-
| case construction
| case construction
| three-piece, screw-down caseback and crown
| Large Oyster case with screw-down caseback and crown
|-
|-
| case materials
| case materials
| 18K yellow gold (most common); 18K pink/rose gold (very rare, ~20 examples estimated)
| Yellow gold is documented; pink-gold examples are also recorded in auction catalogues
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|-
| bezel
| bezel
| thin reeded/fluted coin-edge gold
| Thin reeded or coin-edge gold bezel on documented examples
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|-
| crystal
| crystal
| acrylic, domed, 30.9mm
| Domed acrylic or plastic crystal on documented examples
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| crown
| screw-down brevet, marked “Rolex + Oyster” with cross-center
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| movement
| movement
| Cal. A.295 (listed as Cal. 740/745 in parts catalogs)
| Rolex A.295 automatic, 10½ ligne, 18 jewels in the cited auction records
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| date complication
| date complication
| yes — date at 3 o’clock, gradual change around midnight
| Date at 3 o’clock; catalogue descriptions distinguish gradual and later instantaneous systems
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| Cyclops
| Cyclops
| no (introduced on ref 6305 in 1954)
| No; it appears on later Datejust references
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| “Datejust” text on dial
| dial text
| no (first appears on ref 6105)
| “Oyster Perpetual” with “Chronometer” or “Certified Chronometer”; “Datejust” is absent
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| bracelet
| bracelet
| Jubilee (debut reference)
| Early 18K Jubilee examples exist; later bracelets and leather straps are also documented
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| launch price
| CHF 975 (1945)
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| italian nickname
| nickname
| ''Ovettone'' (“big egg”), per Pandolfini and Aste Bolaffi
| ''Ovettone'' (“big egg”) in Italian auction and collector usage
|}
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<span id="what-the-4467-is"></span>
== What the 4467 is ==
==What the 4467 is==


Rolex built the 4467 to mark 40 years since Hans Wilsdorf founded the firm in 1905. Launch in Switzerland coincided with the end of the Second World War in Europe, and Swiss press coverage read it in that light. Wilsdorf had been planning anniversary pieces since at least 1944, and the brief was deliberate, a technically ambitious new complication rather than a commemorative reissue: the world’s first automatic chronometer wristwatch with a date window in a sealed Oyster case.
Rolex introduced the 4467 in 1945, the company’s 40th-anniversary year. Phillips and Antiquorum describe it as an early automatic chronometer wristwatch with a date aperture, and as the first reference associated with the Datejust line. The anniversary context is well documented; the exact launch advertising and production total are less complete.


Every design decision reflected the anniversary framing. The metal is 18K gold, never steel, never two-tone. The bracelet is new: the Jubilee, whose name references the Ruby Jubilee, the traditional 40th anniversary marker. The bezel is reeded and coin-edged, a direct visual precursor to the fluted bezel that becomes a Datejust signature by the 1960s. And the first hundred pieces are sold by subscription, through a Swiss newspaper, numbered 1 through 100 between the lugs.
The watch combines a 36mm Oyster case, a date aperture at 3 o’clock, and a 10½-line automatic movement. The dial uses “Oyster Perpetual” and a chronometer designation rather than the later model name. The case is larger than the 31–32mm Bubblebacks that preceded it because the A.295 movement and date mechanism need more room.
 
Underneath the anniversary framing was a working design problem. Automatic date complications had no established architecture in the mid-1940s. Rolex and Aegler (the exclusive movement supplier) had to design an automatic with enough torque to drive both a winding rotor and a date wheel, fit it into a waterproof Oyster case, and find a visual language for the date window that did not disrupt the Oyster Perpetual’s identity. The answer is imperfect. The date changes gradually, there is no quickset, there is no magnifier, and every one of those limits is resolved in successor references. But the template exists here, and everything that follows in the Datejust line is iteration on it.


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<span id="ovetto-versus-ovettone"></span>
== Ovetto versus Ovettone ==
==Ovetto versus Ovettone==


Italian auction houses and native collectors (Pandolfini, Aste Bolaffi, and the broader Italian Rolex community) use two distinct nicknames. ''Ovetto'' (“little egg”) designates the standard 32mm Bubblebacks: refs 1858, 2940, 3131, 3372, 3458, 4220, and contemporaries. ''Ovettone'' (“big egg”) designates the 36mm Big Bubbleback family: the 4467 and its siblings 5020, 5026, 5028, 5030, 5031, 6028, 6031, 6074, 6075, and 6105.
Italian auction catalogues use ''ovetto'' (“little egg”) for standard Bubblebacks and ''ovettone'' (“big egg”) for the larger case group that includes the 4467. The terms are collector vocabulary, not Rolex model names. Reference lists vary on which adjacent 36mm references belong in the group, so the nickname should not be used as a substitute for the reference number.


Italian supports this diminutive-augmentative stacking as a normal construction; the parallel ''Padella/Padellone'' distinction (used for ref 8171) follows the same pattern. ''-etto'' is diminutive, ''-one'' is augmentative. Applied together, the compound produces a nickname that captures the 4467’s identity: a Bubbleback visibly bigger than its siblings.
The 4467’s large domed case explains the nickname. It shares the Bubbleback family’s rotor clearance with smaller references, but its case proportions are closer to the later 36mm Datejust format.
 
The Vintage Rolex Field Manual uses ''ovettone'' more broadly as a generic Bubbleback synonym.


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<span id="the-36mm-case-and-the-big-bubbleback-family"></span>
== The 36mm case and the Big Bubbleback family ==
==The 36mm case and the Big Bubbleback family==


The 4467’s case is a tonneau-form Oyster, cushion-like and with the characteristic Bubbleback domed caseback, measuring approximately 36mm in diameter. That is a 4mm increase over the standard 32mm Bubbleback, the default for automatic Rolex watches from 1933 through the mid-1940s. The size increase was driven by the movement: Cal. A.295 measures 29.5mm across against the 26.4mm of the preceding 620 family, requiring a larger case and a larger caseback dome to house the rotor.
The 4467 has a cushion or tonneau-shaped Oyster case measuring about 36mm in the cited Phillips and Antiquorum records. The domed back clears the automatic rotor. The case, bezel, crown, and crystal should be assessed separately because later service parts are common.


On the wrist, a 4467 reads differently from a standard Bubbleback. A 32mm Bubbleback is a dress watch by modern proportions, small and domed. The 4467 is still domed, still unmistakably a Bubbleback, but it wears closer to the proportions mid-century Rolex dress watches settled into by the 1950s: the proportions the 6305, 6605, and eventually the 1601 Datejust inherit and refine. The 4467 is the origin of the 36mm Oyster Perpetual as a dress-watch format.
[[File:Ref4467_pink_gold_red_date_black_dial.webp|thumb|right|300px|alt=Rolex 4467 pink-gold watch with black dial|Rolex 4467 pink-gold watch with black dial]]
The bezel on documented early watches is a thin reeded or coin-edge design. It predates the deeper fluted bezel associated with later Datejust references. The crown is a screw-down Rolex Oyster crown; case records identify both yellow- and pink-gold examples.


Case construction is three-piece: bezel, mid-case, screw-down caseback. The bezel is thin and reeded, shallower and subtler than the sharply faceted fluting of later Datejusts but the direct precursor to it. Rolex had used engine-turned and fluted bezels on earlier Oysters (the 3372 Luxury Model most prominently); the 4467’s version is the one the Datejust adopts as its own signature.
There is no Cyclops magnifier on the 4467 examples reviewed. Auction catalogues place the magnifier on later Datejust references, commonly dated to the 6305 generation in 1954. Treat that as a later family development, not a feature of the 4467.
 
The crown is a standard screw-down brevet, marked “Rolex + Oyster” with a cross-center design. The crystal is acrylic, domed, approximately 30.9mm. No Cyclops; that magnifier does not appear on a Datejust until ref 6305 in 1954.


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<span id="precious-metal-only"></span>
== Precious metal only ==
==Case materials==


[[File:Ref4467_pink_gold_red_date_black_dial.jpg|thumb|right|300px|4467 'Red Datejust' in 18K pink gold with rare black dial, case 460565 (Antiquorum 2018).]]
Yellow-gold 4467 cases are documented by Phillips, Bonhams, and Antiquorum. Antiquorum’s 2018 catalogue describes the reference as made in 18K yellow gold, while the same page records a pink-gold example; the auction record therefore proves that pink-gold watches exist, but does not establish their original production share. No steel or two-tone 4467 example was located in the sources reviewed.


The 4467 was produced in 18K gold only. Two variants are documented: 18K yellow gold, which accounts for the overwhelming majority of surviving examples, and 18K pink or rose gold, substantially rarer. Collector estimates put the pink gold population at approximately twenty.
A claimed steel or two-tone 4467 needs strong case and movement evidence. A gold caseback, bezel, or bracelet alone does not prove that all case components are original to the reference.


No steel 4467 exists. No two-tone 4467 exists. The anniversary framing drove that decision: the 4467 was a commemorative flagship, not a production workhorse. Steel and two-tone Datejusts arrive later, with ref 6305 and its successors. Any purported steel or two-tone 4467 is a red flag for authentication.
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==The souscription batch==


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The first 100 watches are described in the Antiquorum 2024 catalogue as a “souscription” issue sold after a newspaper advertisement. The lot is case number 46, with the number between the lugs, an 18K yellow-gold case, A.295 movement, and a leather strap with a gold buckle. Antiquorum identifies the newspaper as ''La Suisse'' and says buyers could order a coat of arms or initials.
== The souscription batch and CHF 975 ==


[[File:Ref4467_souscription_numbered.jpg|thumb|right|300px|A souscription-numbered 4467 — first 100 pieces, sold by newspaper subscription at CHF 975.]]
[[File:Ref4467_souscription_numbered.webp|thumb|right|300px|alt=Numbered Rolex 4467 souscription case|Numbered Rolex 4467 souscription case]]
Numbering between the lugs is documented on the first series, but it should be checked on the watch itself. The Antiquorum lot is one record, not proof that every early watch has identical engraving or that every unnumbered watch is later. References to “Modèle Déposé” and other between-lug markings need image-backed verification.


Rolex sold the first hundred 4467 watches by subscription through a Swiss newspaper. Buyers paid CHF 975 (roughly several months of skilled-worker income in 1945) and received a numbered piece with their assigned position between the lugs, 1 through 100. Custom engraving was offered: a coat of arms or the buyer’s initials.
The cited catalogue records the original subscription offer and its newspaper provenance. The auction result is recorded below; the original offer terms should not be confused with a modern market value.
 
The newspaper is contested. Some sources identify it as ''La Suisse'', a Geneva daily published from 1898 to 1994. Goldammer identifies it as ''Tribune de Genève'', the other major Geneva daily of the period. No surviving 1945 advertisement has been publicly reproduced in any source surveyed.
 
Souscription pieces are physically distinct. The number appears between the lugs at 6 o’clock, in the position the case serial number takes on later examples. Some carry “Modèle Déposé” (a French-language registration notice) between the lugs instead of a serial; the placement convention on these earliest examples was not yet standardized. By the run-out phase (1946–1949), the serial-number position had shifted to its conventional location. Documented numbered examples include “No:030” and “No:085” (VRF records). Only 18K yellow gold souscription pieces carry the numbering; the rare 18K pink gold examples are unnumbered.
 
Souscription pieces command a premium at auction. Antiquorum’s May 2024 listing carried an estimate of HKD 87,000–174,000, with the numbered provenance cited as the primary driver relative to unnumbered examples.


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<span id="the-jubilee-bracelet"></span>
== The Jubilee bracelet ==
==The Jubilee bracelet==


The Jubilee debuts on the 4467. Rolex designed it specifically for this reference, and the name refers to the Ruby Jubilee, the traditional 40th anniversary. One of Rolex’s two signature bracelet formats (the other being the Oyster) exists because of the 4467’s anniversary framing.
The 4467 is closely associated with the first Jubilee bracelets. Phillips documents an 18K yellow-gold bracelet on its circa-1947 example; the Antiquorum souscription lot has a leather strap and gold buckle. This difference is a reminder that the bracelet on a surviving watch may be a later replacement or a separately supplied period part.


The original Jubilee is a five-link design: three smaller central links flanked by two larger outer links, giving it a softer drape than the flatter three-link Oyster. On the 4467 it is rendered in 18K yellow gold with a folding clasp; pink gold examples carry a pink gold Jubilee matched to the case. The 4467’s Jubilee is also the first Rolex bracelet with solid end links, a construction upgrade from the folded end-link style used on earlier Oyster bracelets of the 1930s.
Early gold Jubilee construction, end links, and clasp details vary in the surviving record. Date the bracelet and clasp from their own marks and construction. Do not use a clasp date as the date of the watch head.
 
From this point forward the Jubilee stays attached to the Datejust line. Later steel and two-tone Datejusts offer both Jubilee and Oyster as options, but the Jubilee becomes the default dress bracelet, particularly on gold and two-tone configurations.
 
Original 1945-era Jubilees on surviving 4467s are unusual. Service replacement was common, especially on yellow gold examples where wear and stretch on a folded-link bracelet accumulate. Period-correct survivors, correct end-links, clasp dates that reconcile with the case, carry a meaningful premium.


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== The dial ==
==The dial==


Dial text carries “ROLEX” and “Oyster Perpetual” below the coronet at 12 o’clock. Below 6 o’clock, the dial is marked either “Chronometer” or “Certified Chronometer”; both are correct and both appear on documented examples.
The 4467 dial reads “ROLEX” and “Oyster Perpetual” below the coronet, with “Chronometer” or “Certified Chronometer” below 6 o’clock. “Datejust” is absent from the documented 4467 dials; Antiquorum notes that the wording appears on the later 6105 reference.


The word “Datejust” does not appear on the 4467’s dial. That text first appears on ref 6105, the successor that establishes the model name as a dial feature. On the 4467, the date window at 3 o’clock is unannounced: the watch carries a date but not yet its own name.
[[File:Ref4467_phillips_roulette_518506.webp|thumb|right|300px|alt=Rolex 4467 with roulette date wheel|Rolex 4467 with roulette date wheel]]
Phillips lot 222 is an eggshell-dial yellow-gold watch with applied markers, center seconds, and a red-and-black roulette date wheel. Antiquorum’s 2018 lot 151 is a pink-gold watch with a black dial and red date numerals. These are documented examples, not a complete dial catalogue.


Most surviving 4467 dials share a common configuration: cream or eggshell base with applied gold pointed dagger markers, radium luminous dots, and gold alpha hands with radium inserts. This is the format Phillips presented in 2018 (case 518506, sold CHF 33,750). Variants include dials with and without lume, dials with the Bubbleback-style Rolex crown logo versus a “cut-off” truncated crown, and rare left-handed variants with the crown at 9 o’clock.
Dial layout, crown shape, lume, and hand style should be checked together. A black dial, red date wheel, or unusual crown can be genuine and still be a replacement from another watch.


Black dial variants are extremely rare. Antiquorum’s May 2018 lot (case 460565) presented an 18K pink gold 4467 with a black dial and a red-numeral date wheel, the rarest stack the reference produces.
===Date wheel evolution===


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Published descriptions show both black-on-light and red-and-black date wheels. Some early examples are described with all-red numerals, while later watches carry roulette wheels; the sources do not establish hard changeover dates. Treat date-wheel color as one dating clue among several.
=== Date wheel evolution ===
 
Three distinct date-wheel configurations are documented across the production run. The earliest 4467 dials, circa 1945 and into the first year or two, carry date wheels with black numerals on a white or off-white background, consistent with the dial’s palette. Sometime in the mid-1940s Rolex introduced an all-red date wheel with every date from 1 through 31 printed in red; documented on examples from roughly 1945 through 1947, this is the “Red Datejust” of collector literature. The Antiquorum pink gold example above carries the red wheel, and all-red 4467 dials command a premium over the standard black-numeral version. The roulette wheel (alternating red and black numerals, typically odd in one colour and even in the other) appears on 4467 dials from approximately 1947 through the end of production around 1953, and is the version most collectors picture when they picture a 4467. The Phillips 2018 example carries a roulette. These three configurations are tendencies rather than rules. Production overlap is the norm in vintage Rolex, and examples exist where the date wheel is not the version expected for the case serial range.


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== Movement: Cal. A.295 ==
==Movement: Cal. A.295==


The 4467 uses Cal. A.295, listed in parts catalogs as Cal. 740 or Cal. 745. These are the same physical caliber under two naming conventions: A.295 by diameter, 740/745 by the parts-catalog convention Rolex used for service documentation. Some secondary sources list Cal. 710; that is a manual-wind caliber used in the Oyster Royal and Speedking, not the automatic Datejust.
Phillips and Antiquorum identify the 4467 movement as Rolex A.295, 10½ ligne and 18 jewels. Parts references also use 740 and 745 labels in this movement family, but the sources reviewed do not justify presenting those labels as a single universal equivalence for every 4467. Read the movement plate and the period documentation together.


A.295 is a 10.5 ligne automatic, 29.5mm in diameter, 18 jewels, rhodium-plated. Straight-line lever escapement, Rolex Superbalance, self-compensating Breguet balance spring with index regulator. The rotor is unidirectional, winding in one direction and slipping freely in the other, consistent with the 520/620 Bubbleback family. True bidirectional winding does not arrive in a Rolex caliber until Cal. 1030 in 1950. A.295 has no shock protection and no quickset.
The cited A.295 records describe an automatic movement with center seconds, a Superbalance, a Breguet balance spring, and no quickset. The exact regulator, shock protection, and rotor wording should be taken from the individual movement and its catalogue entry; later service work can change visible parts.


The caliber’s significance is that it is the first automatic chronometer wristwatch movement with a date function. Rolex had produced calendar complications before, but those were manual-wind and not chronometer-grade. A.295 integrates a date wheel into an automatic, chronometer-certified movement in a sealed Oyster case, the combination that defines the Datejust as a category.
A.295 is the movement associated with the 4467’s automatic date function. It is part of the early Datejust transition, before later calibres introduced instantaneous date change and quickset adjustment.


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== The date-change mechanism ==
==The date-change mechanism==


The 4467’s date changes gradually over roughly two to four hours around midnight. The instantaneous snap-change date arrived later with Cal. 1065 in 1956–1957, used in refs 6604 and 6605; that same movement ended the Bubbleback case profile, its flatter architecture removing the need for the dome over the rotor. Quickset came with Cal. 3035 in 1977. Some sources describe the 4467’s change as instantaneous; this reflects the name’s aspirational framing rather than the mechanism.
Descriptions of the 4467 in the reviewed sources distinguish its date change from the instantaneous system used by later Datejust movements. The date advances gradually around midnight on the early mechanism; the later instantaneous system is associated with Cal. 1065 and references 6604/6605 in the mid-1950s. No quickset is expected on the original A.295 configuration.


Related limits carry forward from this movement generation. No quickset: the date can be set only by advancing the hour hand through a 24-hour cycle. Unidirectional winding: the 4467 requires more wrist movement than later automatic Rolex watches. No shock protection: drops and impacts are more consequential than for later calibers with KIF or Incabloc.
A service movement or altered date mechanism can change that behavior. Test the watch only after confirming the movement and service history, and do not use a seller’s description of a “quick change” as proof of an original 4467 mechanism.


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== The Yeager sound barrier claim ==
==The Yeager sound-barrier claim==


The Vintage Rolex Field Manual implies Chuck Yeager wore a 4467 when he broke the sound barrier on October 14, 1947. No contemporary evidence supports the attribution. The flight was classified until June 10, 1948, and photographs from the period show a plain-dial stainless Oyster Perpetual rather than a precious-metal Datejust. Collector research identifies the likely reference as 6422, 1002, or 6480. Retroactive Rolex marketing associating the brand with the sound-barrier flight appears from 1953 onward, after Yeager sent a photo to Hans Wilsdorf.
A later collector and dealer tradition associates Chuck Yeager’s 1947 sound-barrier flight with a Rolex 4467. The sources reviewed do not provide contemporary evidence that he wore this reference. Photographs and later discussion point to other plain-dial Oyster references, but the exact watch remains disputed. Keep the story separate from the documented 4467 launch and auction records.


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== Auction record ==
==Auction record==


[[File:Ref4467_bonhams_bucherer_1948.jpg|thumb|right|300px|An 18K yellow gold 4467 purchased 6 August 1948, with original Bucherer receipt and COSC certificate (Bonhams).]]
The public sample includes yellow- and pink-gold watches, a numbered souscription example, and a watch with period sales paperwork. Results describe individual lots and are not a general price guide.
 
Four lots cover most of the 4467 configuration space collectors care about: yellow gold with standard dial, pink gold with rare dial, numbered souscription provenance, and original-paperwork provenance. The 4467 anchors the gold-Bubbleback segment, though no result approaches the upper-tier numbers gilt-era Submariners or Daytonas have set. That is the shape of the market for a gold-only Big Bubbleback, where steel sport watches have moved faster than gold dress references.


[[File:Ref4467_bonhams_bucherer_1948.webp|thumb|right|300px|alt=Rolex 4467 with Bucherer receipt and chronometer certificate|Rolex 4467 with Bucherer receipt and chronometer certificate]]
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! Date
! Date
! Lot
! Lot
! Case No
! Case no.
! Material
! Material
! Dial
! Dial or provenance
! Date wheel
! Result
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| May 2018
| May 2018
| 222
| 222
| 518506
| 518'506
| 18K YG
| 18K yellow gold
| Eggshell
| Eggshell dial, roulette date wheel, gold bracelet
| Roulette
| '''CHF 33,750''' (estimate CHF 15,000–30,000)
| CHF 33,750 (est. 15,000–30,000)
|-
|-
| Bonhams
| Bonhams
| —
| Auction record cited
| 116
| 116
| —
| n/a
| 18K YG
| 18K yellow gold
| —
| Bucherer receipt dated 6 August 1948 and COSC certificate
| —
| '''USD 14,080'''
| USD 14,080 (with original Bucherer receipt dated Aug 6, 1948, and COSC certificate)
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| Antiquorum
| Antiquorum, Geneva
| May 2018
| May 2018
| —
| 151
| 460565
| 460'565
| 18K PG
| 18K pink gold
| Black
| Black dial, red date wheel
| Red (“Red Datejust”)
| '''CHF 18,750''' (estimate CHF 15,000–20,000)
| Rare — estimate / result not publicly reconciled
|-
|-
| Antiquorum
| Antiquorum, Geneva
| May 2024
| May 2024
| —
| 95
| —
| 46
| 18K YG
| 18K yellow gold
| —
| Souscription number 046 between the lugs; leather strap
| —
| '''CHF 20,000''' (estimate CHF 10,000–20,000)
| “Souscription” numbered example, est. HKD 87,000–174,000
|}
|}


Phillips 2018 Lot 222 at CHF 33,750 is the public benchmark for a strong standard 18K yellow gold 4467: eggshell dial, roulette date wheel, Jubilee bracelet, case in the 500,000s consistent with mid-production. The result sits above estimate and reflects blue-chip positioning among early Datejust collectors.
Phillips lot 222 is a circa-1947 18K yellow-gold 4467 with A.295, 18 jewels, a 36mm case, and a red-and-black roulette wheel. It sold for CHF 33,750 against a CHF 15,000–30,000 estimate.


Bonhams Lot 116 at USD 14,080 is anchored by provenance. The watch carries an original Bucherer sales receipt dated August 6, 1948, plus the original COSC chronometer certificate. A 4467 with verifiable 1948 original paperwork tied to a major period retailer is a meaningful collector artifact before the watch itself is evaluated.
Antiquorum lot 151 is a circa-1944 pink-gold 4467 with black dial and case 460'565. It sold for CHF 18,750 against a CHF 15,000–20,000 estimate. The lot page’s narrative calls the reference yellow-gold only while cataloguing this pink-gold watch, so metal claims should be grounded in the actual case and hallmarks.


Antiquorum’s May 2018 pink gold black-dial example (case 460565) represents the confluence of three rare traits: pink gold case, black dial, and red date wheel. Case 460565 falls in the earlier range of documented production, consistent with the red-wheel attribution of 1945–1947.
Antiquorum lot 95 is a circa-1945 yellow-gold souscription watch, case number 46, with A.295 and 18 jewels. It sold for CHF 20,000. The first-series numbering and the associated provenance are documented for this lot; they are not a production census.


Antiquorum’s May 2024 souscription example carries the 1–100 numbered provenance at the top of the desirability hierarchy. The Hong Kong estimate (HKD 87,000–174,000) works out to roughly USD 11,000–22,000.
The Bonhams record is useful for paperwork and delivery history. Treat the receipt and certificate as catalogue claims until the lot images and original documents are inspected.


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=== Market context ===
===Market context===


Average auction results for standard 4467 examples cluster around USD 10,000–11,000. Dealer asking prices run higher, typically USD 11,000–20,000+ depending on condition, paperwork, bracelet originality, and configuration. Pink gold examples command 2–3× a comparable yellow gold example. Black-dial examples, red date wheels, and souscription provenance each carry their own premiums. When these rare traits stack, the result is a configuration that does not have a price; examples do not surface often enough to establish one.
The four records above are too small and too mixed in condition, metal, bracelet, dial, and paperwork to establish an average or a reliable price range. Keep auction results with their lot descriptions. Do not turn one Phillips result or one subscription estimate into a ranking of all 4467 watches.
 
The 4467 market is stable compared with the volatility in steel sport references. Gold Bubblebacks were not a speculative focus of the post-2018 vintage boom, and prices have appreciated steadily. For collectors drawn to historical significance more than momentum, the 4467 is not a trade.


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== What the 4467 established ==
==What the 4467 established==


Three distinct design elements and one entire model category descend from this reference.
The 4467 established the early Datejust format: an automatic Oyster with a date aperture in a 36mm case. The later 6105 adds the “Datejust” dial wording; the 6305 adds the Cyclops; later 6604/6605 movements introduce the instantaneous date change; and quickset arrives much later. Those later changes should not be projected back onto an original 4467.


The Datejust model. The first reference to carry “Datejust” on the dial is the 6105: same complication, same caseband, updated movement, dial text added. From the 6105 the line develops through the 6305 (first Cyclops, 1954), the 6604/6605 (instantaneous date, 1956–57), the 1600/1601 family (modernized case, 1960s), the 16000/16030/16014 (Cal. 3035, quickset, 1977 onward), the 16200/16220/16233 (Cal. 3135, 1988 onward), and into the current 126200/126233/126234 generation. Every one of those references traces its mechanical and conceptual heritage back to the 4467.
The reference is also associated with the early Jubilee bracelet and the shallow reeded bezel. Surviving watches may have later bracelets, crowns, crystals, or movements, so those family links are historical context rather than an originality test.


The Jubilee bracelet. Designed specifically for this anniversary reference, the Jubilee becomes one of the two signature Rolex bracelet formats alongside the Oyster. Beyond the Datejust it appears on Day-Date (certain configurations) and in the modern catalogue on the GMT-Master II and Sky-Dweller.
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The fluted bezel. Earlier Oysters used fluted and engine-turned bezels (the 3372 most prominently), but the 4467’s reeded coin-edge bezel is specifically the precursor to the fluted Datejust bezel that becomes the line’s signature.


The automatic date complication in a chronometer wristwatch. Before 1945, automatic wristwatches existed, chronometer-certified wristwatches existed, and calendar wristwatches existed. No single watch combined all three in a commercially viable form. The 4467 is that watch, and its mechanism, even in imperfect first-generation form, becomes the template for every date-complication Rolex that follows. Every Datejust, Submariner Date, GMT-Master II, Sea-Dweller, Yacht-Master with date, and Day-Date descends from the architectural problem the 4467 solved first.
* Reference 5028 and other large-case Bubblebacks: related 36mm family references.
* [[Reference:6105|6105]]: later Datejust reference with the model name on the dial.
* Reference 6305: later Datejust reference associated with the Cyclops magnifier.
* References 6604 and 6605: later Datejust references with instantaneous date change.
* [[Reference:8171|8171]]: a separate triple-calendar “Padellone,” related by period and case scale, not by movement.


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The 4467 sits within a cluster of Big Bubbleback and early Datejust references that collectively constitute the ''Ovettone'' family.
* 5028. Big Bubbleback ''Ovettone'' without date. Same 36mm case architecture as the 4467, using a modified A.295-family movement without the calendar module.
* 6030, 6031, 6074, 6075. Big Bubbleback family references, variously with and without date, extending the 36mm case architecture through the late 1940s and early 1950s.
* 6105. The first Datejust to carry “Datejust” text on the dial. Direct successor to the 4467 in the Datejust line.
* 6305. The first Datejust with a Cyclops magnifier over the date, introduced in 1954.
* 6604/6605. The first Datejusts with Cal. 1065, which introduces the true instantaneous midnight date change in 1956–57, ending the era of gradual creep.
* 8171 “Padellone.” A moonphase triple calendar in a 38mm case; part of the broader ''Ovettone''/Big Bubbleback family rather than the Datejust line. The nickname (“big pan”) follows the same diminutive-augmentative pattern as ''Ovettone''. It shares the large-case, precious-metal, anniversary-era aesthetic without being mechanically related to the 4467.


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== Collecting considerations ==
==Collecting considerations==
 
The 4467 sits in a specific collecting slot. It is the most historically significant reference in the Bubbleback era, the ancestor of the Datejust line, genuinely rare (approximately 1,000 units produced), and available for meaningful premiums over baseline Bubbleback pricing without reaching the prices the steel sport references command.
 
Configuration hierarchy. From most to least desirable:


# 18K pink gold + black dial + red date wheel + souscription provenance: the maximum-rarity stack.
Check the case material, caseback reference, serial placement, movement, dial, date wheel, crown, and bracelet as separate evidence. The public auction records identify A.295 movements and 18K gold cases, but service replacements are common on watches of this age.
# 18K pink gold + standard or black dial: pink gold alone drives a substantial premium given the ~20-example population.
# 18K yellow gold + souscription 1–100 numbered + original paperwork.
# 18K yellow gold + “Red Datejust” all-red date wheel.
# 18K yellow gold + eggshell dial + roulette date + Jubilee: baseline strong configuration, comparable to Phillips 2018 Lot 222.
# 18K yellow gold + standard configuration without paperwork or provenance.


Authentication priorities.
For a claimed souscription watch, photograph the number between the lugs and compare it with the catalogue record. For a claimed pink-gold watch, check the hallmarks and case construction. For a retailer or provenance claim, keep the original paperwork with the lot or family history that supports it.


* Movement. Should be A.295 (Cal. 740/745). Verify against parts-catalog reference photographs.
The bracelet and clasp date the bracelet, not the watch head. A later Jubilee can be period-correct and still not be original delivery. The same distinction applies to crowns, crystals, hands, and date wheels.
* Case material. 18K gold only. Claimed steel or two-tone 4467 watches do not exist in documented production.
* Serial number placement. Souscription pieces (1–100) carry the number between the lugs; some earliest pieces carry “Modèle Déposé” between the lugs with no case serial. Later production carries conventional placement. A souscription claim without the between-lugs number is suspect.
* Dial and hand lume. Radium lume on markers and alpha hands should patinate together. Mismatched lume color is a replacement flag. Refinished dials reduce value meaningfully.
* Jubilee bracelet. Period-correct Jubilees are uncommon as original-delivery survivors. The meaningful distinction is period-correct (correct decade, clasp, end-links) versus service-replacement-with-modern-components.
* Movement architecture. An A.295 should match reference photographs. Architectural differences (bidirectional rotor, quickset, shock protection) indicate a later caliber misidentified or service-swapped.


Original-delivery bracelets are rare. Original sales paperwork is rarer still; the Bucherer receipt from Bonhams Lot 116 is the type specimen. Examples with full paperwork command a premium that can exceed the configuration premium on its own.
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Ref_4467_hero.webp|4467 Datejust Bubbleback
Ref4467_pink_gold_red_date_black_dial.webp|Pink-gold black-dial example
Ref4467_souscription_numbered.webp|Souscription case number
Ref4467_phillips_roulette_518506.webp|Phillips roulette date wheel
Ref4467_bonhams_bucherer_1948.webp|Bucherer paperwork example
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== Sources ==
== Sources ==
* The Vintage Rolex Field Manual, Chevalier Edition — unknown, Morning Tundra
* [https://www.phillips.com/detail/rolex/CH080118/222 Phillips Geneva Watch Auction VII, lot 222]
* [https://www.phillips.com/detail/rolex/CH080118/222 Phillips Geneva Watch Auction VII Lot 222 — Rolex ref 4467 18K YG roulette date c.1945] — Phillips
* [https://catalog.antiquorum.swiss/en/lots/rolex-ref-4467-datejust-lot-313-151 Antiquorum Geneva, lot 151, ref. 4467]
* [https://www.bonhams.com/auction/30160/lot/116/rolex-a-rare-18k-gold-automatic-calendar-bracelet-watch-pre-datejust-oyster-perpetual-ref-4467-purchased-6th-august-1948/ Bonhams Lot 116 — Rolex ref 4467 18K YG purchased Aug 6 1948 with Bucherer receipt and COSC certificate] — Bonhams
* [https://catalog.antiquorum.swiss/en/lots/rolex-ref-4467-datejust-souscription-lot-368-95 Antiquorum Geneva, lot 95, ref. 4467 souscription]
* [https://catalog.antiquorum.swiss/en/lots/rolex-ref-4467-datejust-lot-313-151 Antiquorum Geneva Lot 313-151 — Rolex ref 4467 Red Datejust 18K PG black dial] — Antiquorum
* [https://www.bonhams.com/auction/30160/lot/116/rolex-a-rare-18k-gold-automatic-calendar-bracelet-watch-pre-datejust-oyster-perpetual-ref-4467-purchased-6th-august-1948/ Bonhams, lot 116, ref. 4467]
* [https://catalog.antiquorum.swiss/en/lots/rolex-ref-4467-datejust-souscription-lot-368-95 Antiquorum Hong Kong Lot 368 — Rolex ref 4467 18K YG Souscription numbered edition] — Antiquorum
* [https://goldammer.me/blogs/articles/history-rolex-datejust-tribune-geneve-4467 Goldammer, historical 4467 and production estimate]
* [https://monochrome-watches.com/rolex-datejust-complete-history/ Monochrome Watches — The Evergreens: Complete History of the Rolex Datejust] — Monochrome
* [https://www.phillips.com/detail/rolex/CH080118/222 Phillips catalogue essay on the 1945 launch]
* [https://goldammer.me/blogs/articles/history-rolex-datejust-tribune-geneve-4467 Goldammer — An Historical Tribune de Geneve Rolex Ref 4467] — Goldammer
* [https://rolexopedia.net/wiki/Reference:Movements Rolexopedia, Movements cross-family page]
* [https://le-monde-edmond.com/datejust-a-closer-look-at-a-rolex-icon-2/ Le Monde Edmond — Datejust: A Closer Look at a Rolex Icon] — Le Monde Edmond
* ''The Vintage Rolex Field Manual'' — Colin A. White, Morning Tundra
* [https://blog.crownandcaliber.com/the-history-of-the-rolex-datejust/ Crown & Caliber — The History of the Rolex Datejust] — Crown & Caliber
* [https://www.gearpatrol.com/watches/a612651/rolex-datejust/ Gear Patrol — Everything You Need to Know to Buy a Rolex Datejust] — Gear Patrol
* [https://www.swisswatchexpo.com/thewatchclub/history-of-the-rolex-date-function SwissWatchExpo — The History of the Rolex Date Function] — SwissWatchExpo
* [https://zealande.com/blogs/we-talk-about-watch-models/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-rolex-datejust Zealande — Everything You Need to Know About the Rolex Datejust] — Zealande
* [https://beckertime.com/blog/rolex-decades-the-40s-datejust-versus-the-50s-datejust/ BeckerTime — Rolex Decades: The 40s Datejust vs the 50s Datejust] — BeckerTime
* [https://robbreport.com/style/watch-collector/lists/rolex-bubbleback-watches-collector-guide-1931-1950s-1235893131/ Robb Report — A Collector's Guide to Rolex Bubbleback Watches 1931-1950s] — Robb Report
* [https://www.pandolfini.it/ Pandolfini Casa d'Aste catalog usage — 'Ovetto' for 32mm Bubblebacks, 'Ovettone' for 36mm Big Bubblebacks] — Pandolfini Casa d'Aste, Pandolfini
* [https://www.astebolaffi.it/ Aste Bolaffi catalog usage of 'Ovetto' for standard 32mm Bubblebacks] — Aste Bolaffi


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Bubbleback › 4467

Rolex 4467 Datejust Bubbleback
Rolex 4467 Datejust Bubbleback

Reference 4467 is the 36mm gold Bubbleback introduced in 1945. It is the first reference later called Datejust, with an automatic date display, a large Oyster case, and the early Jubilee bracelet. The dial does not say “Datejust”; that wording appears on later references. Published auction records cover yellow-gold watches and a small number of pink-gold examples, with differences in dials, date wheels, bracelets, and subscription numbering.

Core facts

detail value
reference 4467
family Big Bubbleback / early Datejust
production Published examples date from circa 1945 to 1949; no factory production ledger located
total production Roughly 1,000 is an external estimate, not a Rolex production total
case diameter About 36mm
case construction Large Oyster case with screw-down caseback and crown
case materials Yellow gold is documented; pink-gold examples are also recorded in auction catalogues
bezel Thin reeded or coin-edge gold bezel on documented examples
crystal Domed acrylic or plastic crystal on documented examples
movement Rolex A.295 automatic, 10½ ligne, 18 jewels in the cited auction records
date complication Date at 3 o’clock; catalogue descriptions distinguish gradual and later instantaneous systems
Cyclops No; it appears on later Datejust references
dial text “Oyster Perpetual” with “Chronometer” or “Certified Chronometer”; “Datejust” is absent
bracelet Early 18K Jubilee examples exist; later bracelets and leather straps are also documented
nickname Ovettone (“big egg”) in Italian auction and collector usage

What the 4467 is

Rolex introduced the 4467 in 1945, the company’s 40th-anniversary year. Phillips and Antiquorum describe it as an early automatic chronometer wristwatch with a date aperture, and as the first reference associated with the Datejust line. The anniversary context is well documented; the exact launch advertising and production total are less complete.

The watch combines a 36mm Oyster case, a date aperture at 3 o’clock, and a 10½-line automatic movement. The dial uses “Oyster Perpetual” and a chronometer designation rather than the later model name. The case is larger than the 31–32mm Bubblebacks that preceded it because the A.295 movement and date mechanism need more room.

Ovetto versus Ovettone

Italian auction catalogues use ovetto (“little egg”) for standard Bubblebacks and ovettone (“big egg”) for the larger case group that includes the 4467. The terms are collector vocabulary, not Rolex model names. Reference lists vary on which adjacent 36mm references belong in the group, so the nickname should not be used as a substitute for the reference number.

The 4467’s large domed case explains the nickname. It shares the Bubbleback family’s rotor clearance with smaller references, but its case proportions are closer to the later 36mm Datejust format.

The 36mm case and the Big Bubbleback family

The 4467 has a cushion or tonneau-shaped Oyster case measuring about 36mm in the cited Phillips and Antiquorum records. The domed back clears the automatic rotor. The case, bezel, crown, and crystal should be assessed separately because later service parts are common.

Rolex 4467 pink-gold watch with black dial
Rolex 4467 pink-gold watch with black dial

The bezel on documented early watches is a thin reeded or coin-edge design. It predates the deeper fluted bezel associated with later Datejust references. The crown is a screw-down Rolex Oyster crown; case records identify both yellow- and pink-gold examples.

There is no Cyclops magnifier on the 4467 examples reviewed. Auction catalogues place the magnifier on later Datejust references, commonly dated to the 6305 generation in 1954. Treat that as a later family development, not a feature of the 4467.

Case materials

Yellow-gold 4467 cases are documented by Phillips, Bonhams, and Antiquorum. Antiquorum’s 2018 catalogue describes the reference as made in 18K yellow gold, while the same page records a pink-gold example; the auction record therefore proves that pink-gold watches exist, but does not establish their original production share. No steel or two-tone 4467 example was located in the sources reviewed.

A claimed steel or two-tone 4467 needs strong case and movement evidence. A gold caseback, bezel, or bracelet alone does not prove that all case components are original to the reference.

The souscription batch

The first 100 watches are described in the Antiquorum 2024 catalogue as a “souscription” issue sold after a newspaper advertisement. The lot is case number 46, with the number between the lugs, an 18K yellow-gold case, A.295 movement, and a leather strap with a gold buckle. Antiquorum identifies the newspaper as La Suisse and says buyers could order a coat of arms or initials.

Numbered Rolex 4467 souscription case
Numbered Rolex 4467 souscription case

Numbering between the lugs is documented on the first series, but it should be checked on the watch itself. The Antiquorum lot is one record, not proof that every early watch has identical engraving or that every unnumbered watch is later. References to “Modèle Déposé” and other between-lug markings need image-backed verification.

The cited catalogue records the original subscription offer and its newspaper provenance. The auction result is recorded below; the original offer terms should not be confused with a modern market value.

The Jubilee bracelet

The 4467 is closely associated with the first Jubilee bracelets. Phillips documents an 18K yellow-gold bracelet on its circa-1947 example; the Antiquorum souscription lot has a leather strap and gold buckle. This difference is a reminder that the bracelet on a surviving watch may be a later replacement or a separately supplied period part.

Early gold Jubilee construction, end links, and clasp details vary in the surviving record. Date the bracelet and clasp from their own marks and construction. Do not use a clasp date as the date of the watch head.

The dial

The 4467 dial reads “ROLEX” and “Oyster Perpetual” below the coronet, with “Chronometer” or “Certified Chronometer” below 6 o’clock. “Datejust” is absent from the documented 4467 dials; Antiquorum notes that the wording appears on the later 6105 reference.

Rolex 4467 with roulette date wheel
Rolex 4467 with roulette date wheel

Phillips lot 222 is an eggshell-dial yellow-gold watch with applied markers, center seconds, and a red-and-black roulette date wheel. Antiquorum’s 2018 lot 151 is a pink-gold watch with a black dial and red date numerals. These are documented examples, not a complete dial catalogue.

Dial layout, crown shape, lume, and hand style should be checked together. A black dial, red date wheel, or unusual crown can be genuine and still be a replacement from another watch.

Date wheel evolution

Published descriptions show both black-on-light and red-and-black date wheels. Some early examples are described with all-red numerals, while later watches carry roulette wheels; the sources do not establish hard changeover dates. Treat date-wheel color as one dating clue among several.

Movement: Cal. A.295

Phillips and Antiquorum identify the 4467 movement as Rolex A.295, 10½ ligne and 18 jewels. Parts references also use 740 and 745 labels in this movement family, but the sources reviewed do not justify presenting those labels as a single universal equivalence for every 4467. Read the movement plate and the period documentation together.

The cited A.295 records describe an automatic movement with center seconds, a Superbalance, a Breguet balance spring, and no quickset. The exact regulator, shock protection, and rotor wording should be taken from the individual movement and its catalogue entry; later service work can change visible parts.

A.295 is the movement associated with the 4467’s automatic date function. It is part of the early Datejust transition, before later calibres introduced instantaneous date change and quickset adjustment.

The date-change mechanism

Descriptions of the 4467 in the reviewed sources distinguish its date change from the instantaneous system used by later Datejust movements. The date advances gradually around midnight on the early mechanism; the later instantaneous system is associated with Cal. 1065 and references 6604/6605 in the mid-1950s. No quickset is expected on the original A.295 configuration.

A service movement or altered date mechanism can change that behavior. Test the watch only after confirming the movement and service history, and do not use a seller’s description of a “quick change” as proof of an original 4467 mechanism.

The Yeager sound-barrier claim

A later collector and dealer tradition associates Chuck Yeager’s 1947 sound-barrier flight with a Rolex 4467. The sources reviewed do not provide contemporary evidence that he wore this reference. Photographs and later discussion point to other plain-dial Oyster references, but the exact watch remains disputed. Keep the story separate from the documented 4467 launch and auction records.

Auction record

The public sample includes yellow- and pink-gold watches, a numbered souscription example, and a watch with period sales paperwork. Results describe individual lots and are not a general price guide.

Rolex 4467 with Bucherer receipt and chronometer certificate
Rolex 4467 with Bucherer receipt and chronometer certificate
Venue Date Lot Case no. Material Dial or provenance Result
Phillips Geneva Watch Auction VII May 2018 222 518'506 18K yellow gold Eggshell dial, roulette date wheel, gold bracelet CHF 33,750 (estimate CHF 15,000–30,000)
Bonhams Auction record cited 116 n/a 18K yellow gold Bucherer receipt dated 6 August 1948 and COSC certificate USD 14,080
Antiquorum, Geneva May 2018 151 460'565 18K pink gold Black dial, red date wheel CHF 18,750 (estimate CHF 15,000–20,000)
Antiquorum, Geneva May 2024 95 46 18K yellow gold Souscription number 046 between the lugs; leather strap CHF 20,000 (estimate CHF 10,000–20,000)

Phillips lot 222 is a circa-1947 18K yellow-gold 4467 with A.295, 18 jewels, a 36mm case, and a red-and-black roulette wheel. It sold for CHF 33,750 against a CHF 15,000–30,000 estimate.

Antiquorum lot 151 is a circa-1944 pink-gold 4467 with black dial and case 460'565. It sold for CHF 18,750 against a CHF 15,000–20,000 estimate. The lot page’s narrative calls the reference yellow-gold only while cataloguing this pink-gold watch, so metal claims should be grounded in the actual case and hallmarks.

Antiquorum lot 95 is a circa-1945 yellow-gold souscription watch, case number 46, with A.295 and 18 jewels. It sold for CHF 20,000. The first-series numbering and the associated provenance are documented for this lot; they are not a production census.

The Bonhams record is useful for paperwork and delivery history. Treat the receipt and certificate as catalogue claims until the lot images and original documents are inspected.

Market context

The four records above are too small and too mixed in condition, metal, bracelet, dial, and paperwork to establish an average or a reliable price range. Keep auction results with their lot descriptions. Do not turn one Phillips result or one subscription estimate into a ranking of all 4467 watches.

What the 4467 established

The 4467 established the early Datejust format: an automatic Oyster with a date aperture in a 36mm case. The later 6105 adds the “Datejust” dial wording; the 6305 adds the Cyclops; later 6604/6605 movements introduce the instantaneous date change; and quickset arrives much later. Those later changes should not be projected back onto an original 4467.

The reference is also associated with the early Jubilee bracelet and the shallow reeded bezel. Surviving watches may have later bracelets, crowns, crystals, or movements, so those family links are historical context rather than an originality test.

Related references

  • Reference 5028 and other large-case Bubblebacks: related 36mm family references.
  • 6105: later Datejust reference with the model name on the dial.
  • Reference 6305: later Datejust reference associated with the Cyclops magnifier.
  • References 6604 and 6605: later Datejust references with instantaneous date change.
  • 8171: a separate triple-calendar “Padellone,” related by period and case scale, not by movement.


Collecting considerations

Check the case material, caseback reference, serial placement, movement, dial, date wheel, crown, and bracelet as separate evidence. The public auction records identify A.295 movements and 18K gold cases, but service replacements are common on watches of this age.

For a claimed souscription watch, photograph the number between the lugs and compare it with the catalogue record. For a claimed pink-gold watch, check the hallmarks and case construction. For a retailer or provenance claim, keep the original paperwork with the lot or family history that supports it.

The bracelet and clasp date the bracelet, not the watch head. A later Jubilee can be period-correct and still not be original delivery. The same distinction applies to crowns, crystals, hands, and date wheels.

Sources