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The 6611 is the fluted-bezel member of the second Day-Date generation, alongside the smooth-bezel 6612 and gem-set-bezel 6613. Reference histories usually place it from 1957, after the 6510 and 6511 launch pair. Auction catalogues | The 6611 is the fluted-bezel member of the second Day-Date generation, alongside the smooth-bezel 6612 and gem-set-bezel 6613. Reference histories usually place it from 1957, after the 6510 and 6511 launch pair. Auction catalogues add an earlier example: [https://www.phillips.com/detail/rolex/CH080115/50 Phillips dates one gold 6611 to 1956]. Rolex dates the Day-Date’s debut to 1956; reference-level start dates remain unsettled. | ||
The 6611 is associated with the 1055/1055B movement generation, the “Superlative Chronometer Officially Certified” dial wording, and early President-bracelet fitment. | The 6611 is associated with the 1055/1055B movement generation, the “Superlative Chronometer Officially Certified” dial wording, and early President-bracelet fitment. [Phillips lot 41 for the earlier 6511 records a President bracelet], placing published bracelet evidence before the 6611. Steel school watches and prototypes form a separate, disputed record; the article describes them apart from ordinary gold production. | ||
==Core facts== | ==Core facts== | ||
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| Histories commonly give 1957–59. Phillips dates case 214,124 to 1956. | | Histories commonly give 1957–59. Phillips dates case 214,124 to 1956. Steel school-watch catalogues give conflicting dates; they leave the commercial production span uncertain. | ||
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| President examples | | Auction records document President bracelets on individual examples; original delivery must be assessed watch by watch | ||
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| sub-variant label | | sub-variant label | ||
| Auction and collector literature uses “6611B” for later examples, including the white-gold Phillips watch. | | Auction and collector literature uses “6611B” for later examples, including the white-gold Phillips watch. The suffix’s meaning remains undocumented in the Rolex factory material reviewed. | ||
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==Place in the line== | ==Place in the line== | ||
[https://www.rolex.com/about-rolex/history/1953-1967 Rolex dates the Day-Date debut to 1956]. [https://www.sothebys.com/en/articles/the-rolex-day-date-a-complete-collectors-guide Sotheby’s account] describes the 6510 and 6511 as the first pair and says they were replaced after one year by the 6611. [https://monochrome-watches.com/history-rolex-day-date-1956-present-president-watch-in-depth-review/ Other histories commonly place the 6611 at 1957]. Phillips, however, dates case 214,124 to 1956. That catalogue date | [https://www.rolex.com/about-rolex/history/1953-1967 Rolex dates the Day-Date debut to 1956]. [https://www.sothebys.com/en/articles/the-rolex-day-date-a-complete-collectors-guide Sotheby’s account] describes the 6510 and 6511 as the first pair and says they were replaced after one year by the 6611. [https://monochrome-watches.com/history-rolex-day-date-1956-present-president-watch-in-depth-review/ Other histories commonly place the 6611 at 1957]. Phillips, however, dates case 214,124 to 1956. That catalogue date anchors one watch to 1956; the reference’s production boundaries remain uncertain. | ||
The 6611 carries a fluted bezel. The 6612 is the smooth-bezel sibling, and the 6613 has a gem-set bezel. The 1803 appears around 1959–60 in the histories cited here. | The 6611 carries a fluted bezel. The 6612 is the smooth-bezel sibling, and the 6613 has a gem-set bezel. The 1803 appears around 1959–60 in the histories cited here. The cited record leaves the exact 6611 changeover and a three-year run unconfirmed. | ||
==Production outline== | ==Production outline== | ||
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The clearest case-number anchors are individual auction records. [https://www.phillips.com/detail/rolex/CH080115/50 Phillips lists yellow-gold case 214,124 as a 1956 watch] and [https://www.phillips.com/detail/rolex/CH080515/154 white-gold case 401,546 as a 1958 6611B]. Antiquorum dates the Serpico y Laino 6611B by movement number 386,339 to about 1958. These dates fit the commonly published late-1950s chronology, but they are not a serial-number production table. | The clearest case-number anchors are individual auction records. [https://www.phillips.com/detail/rolex/CH080115/50 Phillips lists yellow-gold case 214,124 as a 1956 watch] and [https://www.phillips.com/detail/rolex/CH080515/154 white-gold case 401,546 as a 1958 6611B]. Antiquorum dates the Serpico y Laino 6611B by movement number 386,339 to about 1958. These dates fit the commonly published late-1950s chronology, but they are not a serial-number production table. | ||
Two Antiquorum steel school-watch entries carry very different dates. The 2002 lot is catalogued as circa 1959 and has a caseback engraved for the Geneva watchmaking school in 1963. The 2013 lot is described as made in 1954, has no case number, and is called a practice watch in the auction note. Those descriptions | Two Antiquorum steel school-watch entries carry very different dates. The 2002 lot is catalogued as circa 1959 and has a caseback engraved for the Geneva watchmaking school in 1963. The 2013 lot is described as made in 1954, has no case number, and is called a practice watch in the auction note. Those steel-watch descriptions are separate from the commercial gold 6611 chronology. | ||
==Movement notes== | ==Movement notes== | ||
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[https://www.phillips.com/detail/rolex/CH080115/50 Phillips catalogues its 1956 yellow-gold 6611 as caliber 1055] and its [https://www.phillips.com/detail/rolex/CH080515/154 1958 white-gold 6611B as 1055B]. Antiquorum describes the yellow-gold Serpico y Laino 6611B as caliber 1055. Specialist histories treat the 1055B as the later version associated with the 6611 generation, but the auction houses do not use the suffix consistently. | [https://www.phillips.com/detail/rolex/CH080115/50 Phillips catalogues its 1956 yellow-gold 6611 as caliber 1055] and its [https://www.phillips.com/detail/rolex/CH080515/154 1958 white-gold 6611B as 1055B]. Antiquorum describes the yellow-gold Serpico y Laino 6611B as caliber 1055. Specialist histories treat the 1055B as the later version associated with the 6611 generation, but the auction houses do not use the suffix consistently. | ||
The 1055 generation is described in [https://monochrome-watches.com/history-rolex-day-date-1956-present-president-watch-in-depth-review/ specialist watch histories] as an automatic chronometer movement with a free-sprung Microstella balance; some accounts also specify a Breguet overcoil and an instantaneous day-and-date change. Those features describe the movement family in specialist literature. They | The 1055 generation is described in [https://monochrome-watches.com/history-rolex-day-date-1956-present-president-watch-in-depth-review/ specialist watch histories] as an automatic chronometer movement with a free-sprung Microstella balance; some accounts also specify a Breguet overcoil and an instantaneous day-and-date change. Those features describe the movement family in specialist literature. They describe the movement family; the cited sources leave the 6611’s production span and its relationship to the 6510/6511 open. | ||
The steel school-watch catalogues should be read as records of what each house published. Antiquorum listed caliber 1556 in 2002 and 1066 in 2013. Phillips’s 1055/1055B gold-watch records do not resolve those steel-watch identifications. | The steel school-watch catalogues should be read as records of what each house published. Antiquorum listed caliber 1556 in 2002 and 1066 in 2013. Phillips’s 1055/1055B gold-watch records do not resolve those steel-watch identifications. The two catalogue caliber labels remain unresolved; a movement inspection or factory record would be needed to identify either steel watch more firmly. | ||
==Dial map== | ==Dial map== | ||
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==Case, bezel, crystal and crown== | ==Case, bezel, crystal and crown== | ||
Phillips and Antiquorum describe 36mm cases with fluted bezels, screw-down crowns and backs. Phillips specifies a plastic crystal on lot 50. | Phillips and Antiquorum describe 36mm cases with fluted bezels, screw-down crowns and backs. Phillips specifies a plastic crystal on lot 50. Rolex’s history page records gold and platinum within the Day-Date line. The 6611 lots reviewed here document yellow, pink and white gold; a platinum example remains unverified. | ||
[[File:Ref 6611 pink-gold.webp|thumb|right|250px|A pink-gold 6611 with fluted bezel.]] | [[File:Ref 6611 pink-gold.webp|thumb|right|250px|A pink-gold 6611 with fluted bezel.]] | ||
Catalogue wording for the 6611B case shape varies. Antiquorum calls case 384,689 “Boitier rond,” while it describes cases 386,339 and 397,072 as tonneau-shaped. These are the houses’ descriptions of individual lots; the | Catalogue wording for the 6611B case shape varies. Antiquorum calls case 384,689 “Boitier rond,” while it describes cases 386,339 and 397,072 as tonneau-shaped. These are the houses’ descriptions of individual lots; the records reviewed leave separate case variants unconfirmed. | ||
==Bracelets and clasps== | ==Bracelets and clasps== | ||
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===Steel school watches and prototypes=== | ===Steel school watches and prototypes=== | ||
Auction records describe steel Day-Dates, though their grouping and reference attributions remain disputed. Antiquorum’s 2002 lot calls a steel watch a 6611, says six were made, dates it circa 1959, and describes it as a prize for Geneva watchmaking-school students. The lot also says the model was first created as reference 6511 and lists caliber 1556. These are Antiquorum’s statements; the same catalogue contains internal dating and reference tensions. | |||
Antiquorum’s 2013 school-watch lot is also titled 6611, but it gives 1954, has no case number, lists caliber 1066, and says unnumbered steel Day-Dates were donated as practice tools. Phillips later described four steel Day-Date prototypes with 1555-series movements and attributed their origin to Rolex watchmakers. These records concern different descriptions and may not count the same watches. Monochrome reports five steel 6611s; | Antiquorum’s 2013 school-watch lot is also titled 6611, but it gives 1954, has no case number, lists caliber 1066, and says unnumbered steel Day-Dates were donated as practice tools. Phillips later described four steel Day-Date prototypes with 1555-series movements and attributed their origin to Rolex watchmakers. These records concern different descriptions and may not count the same watches. Monochrome reports five steel 6611s; the exact count remains uncertain. | ||
The ex-John Goldberger steel watch with case 99,272 was sold by Monaco Legend in 2024 as a 6511. Its 1055 movement and riveted Oyster bracelet support keeping it apart from the later gold 6611 specification, though its prototype reference remains contested in published histories. The steel watches are best recorded by lot and attribution, not used to expand the standard 6611 materials or production range. | The ex-John Goldberger steel watch with case 99,272 was sold by Monaco Legend in 2024 as a 6511. Its 1055 movement and riveted Oyster bracelet support keeping it apart from the later gold 6611 specification, though its prototype reference remains contested in published histories. The steel watches are best recorded by lot and attribution, not used to expand the standard 6611 materials or production range. | ||
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===The 6611B designation=== | ===The 6611B designation=== | ||
Auction catalogues use “6611B” for several later examples. Phillips applies it to the 1958 white-gold watch with caliber 1055B; Antiquorum uses it for gold and pink-gold watches. In the documented examples, it is useful shorthand for a sub-variant. | Auction catalogues use “6611B” for several later examples. Phillips applies it to the 1958 white-gold watch with caliber 1055B; Antiquorum uses it for gold and pink-gold watches. In the documented examples, it is useful shorthand for a sub-variant. Rolex’s factory material reviewed here leaves the suffix’s status as a separate case reference unresolved. | ||
The 6611B records include yellow-, white- and pink-gold cases. The pictured white-gold example has no diamonds; pink-gold lots include both black diamond-marker and silvered dials. The Spanish-market Serpico y Laino watch has a Spanish day disc and a “Big Logo” bracelet that Antiquorum dates to 1958. That listing | The 6611B records include yellow-, white- and pink-gold cases. The pictured white-gold example has no diamonds; pink-gold lots include both black diamond-marker and silvered dials. The Spanish-market Serpico y Laino watch has a Spanish day disc and a “Big Logo” bracelet that Antiquorum dates to 1958. That listing documents one regional configuration; it cannot be generalized to every 6611B. | ||
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==Auction record== | ==Auction record== | ||
The table gives sale totals where the auction houses published them. Several reviewed lot pages omit the result. | |||
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| Antiquorum, 2017, lot 136 | | Antiquorum, 2017, lot 136 | ||
| Yellow-gold 6611B; movement 386,339; circa 1958; Serpico y Laino signature, Spanish day disc, and bracelet described as dated 1958. | | Yellow-gold 6611B; movement 386,339; circa 1958; Serpico y Laino signature, Spanish day disc, and bracelet described as dated 1958. Result omitted from the lot page reviewed. | ||
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| Antiquorum, 2002, lot 37 | | Antiquorum, 2002, lot 37 | ||
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| Antiquorum, 2013, lot 573 | | Antiquorum, 2013, lot 573 | ||
| Steel, | | Steel, case number unrecorded; auction title says 1954 and catalogue lists caliber 1066. Sold CHF 25,000. | ||
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| Antiquorum, 2024, lot 202 | | Antiquorum, 2024, lot 202 | ||
| Pink-gold 6611B, case 425,488; black dial with baguette diamond markers; estimate USD 28,400–52,000. | | Pink-gold 6611B, case 425,488; black dial with baguette diamond markers; estimate USD 28,400–52,000. Result omitted from the lot page reviewed. | ||
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| Antiquorum, 2023, lot 46 | | Antiquorum, 2023, lot 46 | ||
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| Antiquorum, 2017, lot 165 | | Antiquorum, 2017, lot 165 | ||
| Pink-gold 6611B, case 384,689; silvered dial with pink-gold indices. | | Pink-gold 6611B, case 384,689; silvered dial with pink-gold indices. Result omitted from the lot page reviewed. | ||
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| Antiquorum, 2016, lot 552 | | Antiquorum, 2016, lot 552 | ||
| Yellow-gold 6611B, case 397,072; champagne dial. | | Yellow-gold 6611B, case 397,072; champagne dial. Result omitted from the lot page reviewed. | ||
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| Bonhams, 2020, lot 81 | | Bonhams, 2020, lot 81 | ||
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| Monaco Legend, 2024, lot 110 | | Monaco Legend, 2024, lot 110 | ||
| Steel prototype, case 99,272; | | Steel prototype, case 99,272; catalogued as 6511. Official results PDF gives EUR 1,196,000 including premium and VAT; prototype result, excluded from standard-production price comparisons. | ||
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